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Old 11-19-2017, 06:59 AM   #1
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Lord of the Board is rigged

I am a professional backgammon player who enjoys the game and has been playing for more than four decades. In my experience, the absolute worst-rigged game online is Lord of the Board. I've played this sufficiently to see that the algorithms are set to suck as much money out of participants as possible. Indeed, I'm convinced that opponents without a face and some silly number are really bots designed to drain real people's wallets.
Sadly, because the company that operates this is not American, they cannot be investigated, though I have filed a formal complaint with the Israeli government since that seems to be the government that would have jurisdiction, in the faint hope some action would be taken against these unscrupulous operators. But of course, I doubt my complaint will be taken seriously.
Doubly sad is the fact that even this post will have no effect, though I can tell anyone who reads this, I am quitting this site. Vegas is a better bet.
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Old 11-19-2017, 07:01 AM   #2
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I am a professional backgammon player who enjoys the game and has been playing for more than four decades. In my experience, the absolute worst-rigged game online is Lord of the Board. I've played this sufficiently to see that the algorithms are set to suck as much money out of participants as possible. Indeed, I'm convinced that opponents without a face and some silly number are really bots designed to drain real people's wallets.
Sadly, because the company that operates this is not American, they cannot be investigated, though I have filed a formal complaint with the Israeli government since that seems to be the government that would have jurisdiction, in the faint hope some action would be taken against these unscrupulous operators. But of course, I doubt my complaint will be taken seriously.
Doubly sad is the fact that even this post will have no effect, though I can tell anyone who reads this, I am quitting this site. Vegas is a better bet.
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Old 11-19-2017, 10:36 AM   #3
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Whatever gave you the idea that playing online for money was a good idea in the first place?
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Old 11-19-2017, 06:09 PM   #4
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I am a professional backgammon player who enjoys the game and has been playing for more than four decades. In my experience, the absolute worst-rigged game online is Lord of the Board. I've played this sufficiently to see that the algorithms are set to suck as much money out of participants as possible. Indeed, I'm convinced that opponents without a face and some silly number are really bots designed to drain real people's wallets.
Sadly, because the company that operates this is not American, they cannot be investigated, though I have filed a formal complaint with the Israeli government since that seems to be the government that would have jurisdiction, in the faint hope some action would be taken against these unscrupulous operators. But of course, I doubt my complaint will be taken seriously.
Doubly sad is the fact that even this post will have no effect, though I can tell anyone who reads this, I am quitting this site. Vegas is a better bet.
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Old 04-21-2018, 02:25 PM   #5
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I am a professional backgammon player who enjoys the game and has been playing for more than four decades. In my experience, the absolute worst-rigged game online is Lord of the Board. I've played this sufficiently to see that the algorithms are set to suck as much money out of participants as possible. Indeed, I'm convinced that opponents without a face and some silly number are really bots designed to drain real people's wallets.
Sadly, because the company that operates this is not American, they cannot be investigated, though I have filed a formal complaint with the Israeli government since that seems to be the government that would have jurisdiction, in the faint hope some action would be taken against these unscrupulous operators. But of course, I doubt my complaint will be taken seriously.
Doubly sad is the fact that even this post will have no effect, though I can tell anyone who reads this, I am quitting this site. Vegas is a better bet.

I am not a pro player but i wanted to share my experience of this app. I recently downloaded it a few weeks ago and was frustrated at first - seems to focus on 1pt games and no Crawford rule during multiple pt match and I have suffered the usual backgammon nightmare of watching my opponent roll 5 to 6 doubles during bear off etc. but all in all I canít say Iíve noticed it to be rigged - Iíve played 575 games with a win ratio 60% and 2.5mil coins- the 3 or 4 Ďspecial dealí ads are annoying tho and it looks like you lose 13% of your winnings to LOTB which is strange as itís fake cash so I can only assume itís to push you towards buying more coins, as much as I dislike the pushing, developers did make the game to make a profit like most apps out there so I canít begrudge them. They do give you FREE coins every 4 hours so you donít actually have to buy any coins to play- just my thoughts
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Old 04-21-2018, 04:13 PM   #6
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Why not buy eXtreme Gammon for your desktop or laptop and play that instead? You'll be able to practice against a better opponent and you won't have to waste time playing an app that doesn't even know all the rules.
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Old 04-22-2018, 11:43 AM   #7
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Why not buy eXtreme Gammon for your desktop or laptop and play that instead? You'll be able to practice against a better opponent and you won't have to waste time playing an app that doesn't even know all the rules.
I did a few years ago but difficult being tied to the computer whereas the convenience of being able to play on my phone is very appealing when I just want to squeeze in a quick game or 2. I do also have XG mobile backgammon which is good for practicing vs a bot and seems to have a decent tutor mode but there is no online games against other players
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Old 02-01-2019, 09:34 AM   #8
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I am a professional backgammon player who enjoys the game and has been playing for more than four decades. In my experience, the absolute worst-rigged game online is Lord of the Board. I've played this sufficiently to see that the algorithms are set to suck as much money out of participants as possible. Indeed, I'm convinced that opponents without a face and some silly number are really bots designed to drain real people's wallets.
Sadly, because the company that operates this is not American, they cannot be investigated, though I have filed a formal complaint with the Israeli government since that seems to be the government that would have jurisdiction, in the faint hope some action would be taken against these unscrupulous operators. But of course, I doubt my complaint will be taken seriously.
Doubly sad is the fact that even this post will have no effect, though I can tell anyone who reads this, I am quitting this site. Vegas is a better bet.
Wish I'd seen this post earlier. I couldn't agree more. BG online on "any" site is designed to keep players coming back time and again. If you can accomplish this, then your online market plan is on the move. If a novice or amateur player matches with experts and world class players, he'll probably not return. So the Random Die Generators are cooked, every one of them.
(Sorry Bill Robertie, I love your books, but I don't agree with you)

I'm squarely with Paulaz. I've been playing BG, mostly on live boards, since I was old enough to roll bones and turn a cube, back in the Stone Age before they had bullets.. I now play mostly bars and pubs.

Online BG is a scam to sell Ad spots on BG servers, or any gaming server. I play the odds. I know to make a 4:1 or 5:1 move over a 17:1 shot. Doubles are not the culprit; one in six change to double up. It's the 17:1 and 8:1 shots that come way more often than 5 or 9 times in a hundred? End game miracles are the most egregious. When a 5/6 closed board with an open blot over the bar enters and hits nearly every game I play, tells me I'm looking at cooked die generators. I don't need stats, algorithms, records etc. to tell me that these rolls are miracles. BG is not a game of miracles, it's a game of "stiff" rolls. For this reason more than one court decision has rejected the claim that BG is a game of luck and therefore would make it illegal to gamble it online. Pfffft. BG is skill.

If you want to keep everyone coming back to your site, then you need to insure the novice can prevail against accomplished Vet players. You need to show him he can win. It's why folks swarm the slots in a casino.
Servers punish you for making moves they consider mistakes and reward you for making a brilliant move according to the programming of the software driving the random generator. Site admin swears on their mothers that the software is certified to run with neutral parity. Hogwash. A program can be cooked to do whatever you want.

Next time you play five games and 3-5 of those games show die rolls turning defeat into victory with a blink, just do the math. If we were to see the outcomes on the live boards at the pubs I play in, you'd be tossed out into the alley where your bogus dice belong.

eXtreme Gammon, F.I.B.S. Gammon Village, BGroom, take your pick. Nah. Same, same. Why should I believe constant one shot 17:1 enter and hit rolls are a normal part of the game. My 60 yrs playing live boards tell me it's bogus. No calculator or math whiz is going to change me up. Contrary to popular opinion, pigs really can't fly.
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Old 02-01-2019, 11:36 AM   #9
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Why should I believe constant one shot 17:1 enter and hit rolls are a normal part of the game.
Indeed.... why should one believe that something that happens 6% of the time is a normal part of the game? It should never happen.
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Old 02-03-2019, 10:32 PM   #10
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So the Random Die Generators are cooked, every one of them.
I am not sure it is possible to come to this conclusion about "every one of them" logically.

As a counterexample, after my 3900 games on backgammon ace, all downloaded to XG and analyzed, my luck factor is -0.0008. This is insignificant deviation from average 0, so the random dice generator at least on backgammon ace might not be cooked.
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Old 02-12-2019, 12:46 PM   #11
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where we can backgammon for real money?
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Old 02-12-2019, 01:34 PM   #12
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where we can backgammon for real money?
If you're thinking of online sites, the answer is that you probably shouldn't do that.
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Old 03-16-2019, 11:59 PM   #13
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I am a professional backgammon player who enjoys the game and has been playing for more than four decades. In my experience, the absolute worst-rigged game online is Lord of the Board. I've played this sufficiently to see that the algorithms are set to suck as much money out of participants as possible. Indeed, I'm convinced that opponents without a face and some silly number are really bots designed to drain real people's wallets.
Sadly, because the company that operates this is not American, they cannot be investigated, though I have filed a formal complaint with the Israeli government since that seems to be the government that would have jurisdiction, in the faint hope some action would be taken against these unscrupulous operators. But of course, I doubt my complaint will be taken seriously.
Doubly sad is the fact that even this post will have no effect, though I can tell anyone who reads this, I am quitting this site. Vegas is a better bet.
I completely agree with this message. I love backgammon but this game is SCAM!!!
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Old 09-26-2019, 06:25 AM   #14
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iTavli - Best backgammon game is not a backgammon for real money. But, it has a large collection of games, and you can relax by playing either against your computer or against other online players.

An Android and iOS version are also available
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Old 12-20-2019, 05:01 PM   #15
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You are 100 % correct. Iíve blown enough money on this rigged money trap. I located an office in Israel. Iíd like to take things a step further.
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Old 12-20-2019, 05:11 PM   #16
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And lord of the board is owned by beach bum Ltd. this is their physical office:
Ha-Tidhar St 15, Ra'anana, Israel
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Old 02-20-2020, 10:14 PM   #17
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I downloaded the app recently and was instantly paired up with another "player" that was also a new account, we both proceeded to roll double 6s, double 5s and double 4s nearly every roll. It wasn't statistically impossible, but extremely improbable. I've played a ton of backgammon online, irl and vs gnu and I've probably never seen rolls like that. I haven't opened the app since, though I'll probably get around to it at some point.
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Old 02-22-2020, 04:07 PM   #18
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Hello Kiddies & Kiddiliettes,

On Board With The Lord they ofttimes have a pop up announcing that you need to purchase the Starter Package and you are NOT provided with an exit X, no worries...just hit your back button and it goes away. Aside from the profits of their ridiculous offers to purchase imaginary coins these offers are the detested Data Miners and they really want your banking info. I've played their game for over a year now and have never paid a penny sooooo, be so advised, be wise and keep your money in your bank account where it belongs. Remember ...YOU are the Lord here, don't let their offers push you around! Booya Buds!!!
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Old 03-28-2020, 01:58 PM   #19
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So rigged I often called out my opponents perfect roll before it came.
to my wife. “Hey honey, watch this perfect 6/5 coming.” She says “Wow, how did you do that, did you rig it?”
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I am a professional backgammon player who enjoys the game and has been playing for more than four decades. In my experience, the absolute worst-rigged game online is Lord of the Board. I've played this sufficiently to see that the algorithms are set to suck as much money out of participants as possible. Indeed, I'm convinced that opponents without a face and some silly number are really bots designed to drain real people's wallets.
Sadly, because the company that operates this is not American, they cannot be investigated, though I have filed a formal complaint with the Israeli government since that seems to be the government that would have jurisdiction, in the faint hope some action would be taken against these unscrupulous operators. But of course, I doubt my complaint will be taken seriously.
Doubly sad is the fact that even this post will have no effect, though I can tell anyone who reads this, I am quitting this site. Vegas is a better bet.
I hve been playin Backgammon with this app as well. Every time when I was winning somehow the opponent gets the best possible dice, and ,many doubles wins the game. I am also a engineer/programmer since 1999. I know statistics and probability ver well, but this app is ,as said by others, designed to get your money. It it no fun. I just deleted the app. Give my imput for others that they do not waist their valuable time.
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I hve been playin Backgammon with this app as well. Every time when I was winning somehow the opponent gets the best possible dice, and ,many doubles wins the game. I am also a engineer/programmer since 1999. I know statistics and probability ver well, but this app is ,as said by others, designed to get your money. It it no fun. I just deleted the app. Give my imput for others that they do not waist their valuable time.
When an oppoenent sees the futility of his position, he either resigns or just quits the connection. Ok cool. But if he hasn't beared off a single stone then why doesn't the game give me a gammon? If I was on a live board, I would have refused his offer of a single. No way man. I'm a money player, since I'm sucking my mama's teat. Before your mother was born. Come on man.
For those who say no die generation software has been written to react. Seriously? Check out the early days of FIBS. It was originally created as an experiment by math and psych students trying to gauge human reactions to obviously cheats. How do we react? Don't believe me. Cool. I have two stacks of high society ready to set you up to show me how much better you are than me. Pick your server. Simborg and Robertie will owe me their homes, cars and children. Let's go.
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