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09-24-2021 , 11:28 AM
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I would take Backgammon Galaxy "dice" over 99.9% of all dice made as far as randomness.
I'd love to see this 0.1% of more-random dice
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12-29-2021 , 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Marc_Backgammon
I am still to have a rigged dice believer take my bet:

I will let you predict the dice of any rolls of your choice:

I will lay odds:
28-to-1 on a specific double.
4-to-1 on rolling a double (any double).
14-to-1 on any specific non-double roll.

You have to make minimum 30 bets.

The bet size can be whatever you want.

For all the rigged dice believers who thinks their dice are rigged, they could beat me hugely if they are right.

I am still waiting for anybody to take the bet.

… the dice are not rigged. Why the f*** would we rig the dice, when we are trying to be the chess.com of backgammon. And you play for RATING POINTS! Marc Olsen, Sander Lylloff, Mochy… the front figures of Galaxy. Along with 50+ other grandmasters. Don’t you think, that if there was the slighest deviance from randomness in our random number generator, that it would be detected and statistically proved immediately by super experts?

It’s hard pill to swallow, that the dice are not out to get you. But they are not.

Best regards, Marc Olsen, CEO of backgammon galaxy

For a CEO that claims that claims the dice are perfectly random, you're offering awfully weak betting odds. the optics on your betting lines suggest you have no confidence in your own dice. Let's see now: offshore corporation, takes bit coin, handles payment through an aol.com account....what can go wrong here. Mark, your optics aren't the best to be preaching to users about your dice being moral. Look no further than the number of players playing for money. literally no one. You're one long youtube video away from someone unraveling the credibility of your entire site.
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12-30-2021 , 10:03 AM
Quick question (which I've asked before to the 'rigged dice' crowd and have yet to get an answer:

What is the advantage to an online site for rigging its dice? And why are they rigged against you and in favor of some other player?
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12-30-2021 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Robertie
Quick question (which I've asked before to the 'rigged dice' crowd and have yet to get an answer:

What is the advantage to an online site for rigging its dice? And why are they rigged against you and in favor of some other player?

With all due respect, as you do run this forum, not sure if your questions is rhetorical, condescending, or just plain ignorant of how to capitalize an internet gaming site. My 5 year old can name a dozen reasons why BG would manipulate dice. Here's two; make money for the insiders on the gambling side of the business; and two, have a player stare at the screen while he dances on the bar and the opponent closes him out, then has to wait another 5 minutes while the opponent cleans up his blots. Having those eyeballs is money in the bank, and double money if someone is simply watching an opponent play for 5 minutes.

What you should be asking is why isn't there a resign button that with no penalty for the actual resignation? Why isn't the luck rating attached to the user for everyone to see? I'd start there if i was trying to build credibility. Instead, we have to listen to all the Olsen-twins ask "why", or some BG employee tell us that 6-2, 1-4 and 4-2 is random.

And I'm not stating the dice are rigged. I have no idea. but the motive is certainly there, and the optics suggest there is a fish smell.
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01-04-2022 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by teddyballgame
For a CEO that claims that claims the dice are perfectly random, you're offering awfully weak betting odds. the optics on your betting lines suggest you have no confidence in your own dice.
You've understand the bets? What would be the point if the bets are fair? If they are rigged, the complainer at least learn a bit about probability (on the costly way )
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01-04-2022 , 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by teddyballgame
Here's two; make money for the insiders on the gambling side of the business; and two, have a player stare at the screen while he dances on the bar and the opponent closes him out, then has to wait another 5 minutes while the opponent cleans up his blots. Having those eyeballs is money in the bank, and double money if someone is simply watching an opponent play for 5 minutes.
Someone very short sighted might reason about that (especially if money play is involved) but on the long run happy customers are the best way to have a growing business. I don't think that the top players will think even a fraction of a second about rigged dice, so they wont notice that, but at least some people will analyse the dice. If cheating is proven the site is dead. Isn't risking the loss of all the time and money you've invested far more costly than the few dimes extra?

P.S: I don't even play on Galaxy (for a lack of time), but I appreciated M.O. energy to bring BG further. (and the UBC final 2021 was the first BG match where It took the time to watch it. Great stuff! Now I'm looking back in time... Mochy vs. Ueda...whow)
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01-07-2022 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Marc_Backgammon
I am still to have a rigged dice believer take my bet:

I will let you predict the dice of any rolls of your choice:

I will lay odds:
28-to-1 on a specific double.
4-to-1 on rolling a double (any double).
14-to-1 on any specific non-double roll.

You have to make minimum 30 bets.

The bet size can be whatever you want.

For all the rigged dice believers who thinks their dice are rigged, they could beat me hugely if they are right.

I am still waiting for anybody to take the bet.

… the dice are not rigged. Why the f*** would we rig the dice, when we are trying to be the chess.com of backgammon. And you play for RATING POINTS! Marc Olsen, Sander Lylloff, Mochy… the front figures of Galaxy. Along with 50+ other grandmasters. Don’t you think, that if there was the slighest deviance from randomness in our random number generator, that it would be detected and statistically proved immediately by super experts?

It’s hard pill to swallow, that the dice are not out to get you. But they are not.

Best regards, Marc Olsen, CEO of backgammon galaxy
Don't worry Marc. There will always be a handful of players who think the game is rigged. How they know this? Simple - they lose too often for their superior level of skill.

Of course the truth is that if they spent more effort on improving their game then the dice would soon be less rigged.

Keep up the good work!
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01-08-2022 , 09:28 AM
The people who think the dice are rigged are likely to be anti- vaccine as well and think that those of us who have been stupid enough to get vaccinated have been injected with a Bill Gates microchip!
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01-08-2022 , 11:44 PM
Absolutely no question the dice are rigged on BG galaxy. It's a total joke. Rigged against certain strategies (i.e. no backgames allowed). And the higher rated player gets the miracle rolls on a consistent basis
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01-10-2022 , 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by gammondad
Absolutely no question the dice are rigged on BG galaxy. It's a total joke. Rigged against certain strategies (i.e. no backgames allowed). And the higher rated player gets the miracle rolls on a consistent basis
And why is this a good idea for a business running a backgammon playing site? I would think running such a business would want honest dice to attract the largest number of players and keep them for the long-term. Using crooked dice to chase away as many players as possible would seem to defeat this purpose.
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02-25-2022 , 09:59 PM
It makes feel good to know I am not the only one that feels their backgammon game is rigged. I’ve been playing an app from Apple called Adikus backgammon and firmly believe their algorithms are set to benefit their bots ( which there are many) and the players who have very large points. My first complaint is I get to start about 2 times in 50 games. What are the odds of that continuing to happen? And most of my opponents get multiple rolls of doubles. Not sure what the average is per game but sometimes they are getting 10 and above rolls of doubles. Also when I am bump, which happens multiple times I will sit on the bar for many rolls. My opponents get off first try for the most part. I keep playing only because I like the set up of the game. Just very frustrating not to play a fair game.
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02-26-2022 , 01:21 PM
Yes I wonder why any BG game would rigged the dice but I still believe the algorithms have something to do with what is rolled. Especially playing any bots with thousands of points. Especially when you are basically ahead and then They roll 4 sets of double sixes. Just strikes me as very very odd.
I think it’s a good way to get you coming back to try and beat the game which is next to impossible. I do win some but not enough.
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02-26-2022 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TweedleDum
And that's the problem...if BGG dice aren't random, how and why are they skewed? Cui bono?

My regular playing companion, a mathematician who teaches probability, constantly complains that the algorithm is biased against him, and uses as an example the almost predictable and frequent 6-6 or 5-5 rolls when trapped on the bar, and the miraculous saves as perfect dice are rolled in tough situations.

The doubles rolled regularly when I'm trapped on the bar are disturbing (they don't feel random at all) but I can't for the life of me figure out why BGG should alter the randomness, so I maintain it is, in fact, random, and I'm simply more aware of big doubles rolled when i can't use them. And I'm too lazy to test the theory scientifically. I don't keep a random dice generator next to my computer, and I can't see myself recording thousands of rolls.
Yes I wonder why any BG game would rigged the dice but I still believe the algorithms have something to do with what is rolled. Especially playing any bots with thousands of points. Especially when you are basically ahead and then They roll 4 sets of double sixes. Just strikes me as very very odd.
I think it’s a good way to get you coming back to try and beat the game which is next to impossible. I do win some but not enough.
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02-27-2022 , 11:51 AM
If you think a backgammon app or an online site is cheating you, there's a simple solution -- stop playing there.
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02-27-2022 , 07:22 PM
Ok today 8 have played 17 games of Adikus backgammon and never got to start one time. Is this normal for most backgammon games? Seems like either the algorithms are set up for that or game is totally rigged. No doubles but ever player I’ve played has gotten numerous. What’s up with online games? All rigged or what?
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02-27-2022 , 07:22 PM
It just has the best set up. To much crap on others I have tried.
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02-28-2022 , 09:49 AM
It may have the best setup, but if it's constantly cheating you it can't be that much fun to play it. I'd look for a different app.
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03-03-2022 , 08:31 PM
Adikus is SO RIGGED. If you are playing one of their bots good luck winning. If you are ahead you won’t be for long. Every stinking time those bots get multiple doubles every damn game. No way is that normal. People with average points don’t get that constantly. It’s a damn shame you just can’t play a fair game and then those bots are always going to want to double. Do yourself a favor and get out losing 1 point because your chances of winning are slim to none.
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03-04-2022 , 09:57 AM
Why don't you just delete this Adikus app from your system and move on? Sounds like you'd be a lot happier.
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03-06-2022 , 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Robertie
Why don't you just delete this Adikus app from your system and move on? Sounds like you'd be a lot happier.
Probably not. I suspect that this player will find the same problem everywhere.
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03-10-2022 , 01:57 PM
Here I go again but it has to be said. Adikus backgammon is fixed so their bots can always win. 18 games played this morning and I still don’t ever get to start a game! Amazing how this happens time and time again. And my high rolling opponents get so damn many doubles it is impossible to happen game after game. Especially when at the end of the game and I’m ahead all of a sudden it’s an on slot of high doubles. You see this sometimes in games but the amount of times it happens on this app is unbelievable. And the rolls I commonly get or smaller than what they roll. Like they get 6-4, 5-3, 3-1 and I’m getting 1-2, 2-5 and if I’m getting lucky might get some double ones. How exciting is that. Their algorithms are definitely for their bots and possibly a good player or two but doubt there are that many players with scores in the thousands. Sucks big time.
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03-11-2022 , 09:01 AM
Ditch the app and get XG, although I am quite sure you will convince yourself that XG is also cheating.
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03-11-2022 , 02:13 PM
Why would I convince myself that? I do firmly believe the Adikus app does have their algorithms set for certain players. To many similar dice rolls for way to many players. Besides the fact since I started playing this game my times to start the game are about 4 out of 50 games. Like that is normal! I have played other backgammon games on line and none are set up like Adikus. I just like the board setup is the only reason I keep playing but sure that will change down the road.
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03-12-2022 , 03:10 PM
Another day and more of the same playing Adikus backgammon.
10 games NO start
Doubles for opponents 52 for me 1
Perfect rolls for opponents to many to count for me 5
Wins opponents 10 me 0

Who can win with no starts and no doubles? Tell who can possibly win? Game is so damn fixed it’s sick.
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03-16-2022 , 09:04 AM
So why do you keep playing it?
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