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Originally Posted by nooberftw
isnt that exactly what evidence is, seeing the same thing over and over again?
and when people say specifically its the prayer that healed them you just start to take their word for it
i could go up to a person who had surgery and say "nope unless you go to the hospital and pay for another xray and I see you walk in the xray machine and i see the xray coming out of the machine then i simply wont believe you were healed"
but when it comes to god thats basically what youre asking for you are just upping the bar for no reason
and to your other part all i gotta say is that we could of all went pain free lives but the world we live everyone has to suffer at some point in their life... were all sick with sin and need a doctor and by calling on the Lord he does always provide... the question should be "why dont we all have arthritis?" that would actually be merciful since we all deserve hell.
I don't follow your surgery example. If someone broke a bone, it would first be confirmed with xrays, then it would be fixed by an orthopedic surgeon (you could even watch the surgery go down at some hospitals), and finally the set bone would be verified by xray. What you are requesting would in general be performed as routine. I am not upping any bar, I am simply pointing out there is a missing bar.
Let me put it this way: imagine there was a fake healer who had no special abilities whatsoever and had no influence over anyone's ability to heal - there was no healing involved. In what way would their videos differ from any of the ones you have watched? Without looking any further into the results, you would also have ended up just taking their word for it even though it was untrue. That's my point.
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and when people say specifically its the prayer that healed them you just start to take their word for it" - that's exactly the problem I am trying to show you (at least if you want to understand what is real, rather than what you want to be real).