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Will Religion survive the 21st century? Will Religion survive the 21st century?

08-24-2010 , 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Deorum
^^^ sigh
I don't expect you to understand the primary aims of spirituality. But one of them is to transcend certain attitudes.

Did Osama transcend his carnality or did he embrace his own spiritual pride?
He thinks he knows better than everyone else and acted on it in a violent manner.

Did Christ ever spill the blood of any human being?
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08-24-2010 , 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
Did Christ ever spill the blood of any human being?
He is supposed to in revelations, does that count?
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08-24-2010 , 11:43 AM
The sigh was for an entirely unsupported assertion as fact followed by a 'No True Scotsman' fallacy.
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08-24-2010 , 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by batair
He is supposed to in revelations, does that count?
Of course it does. According to Concerto that happened in 70 AD.
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08-24-2010 , 11:53 AM
U guys really need to get lives. On here arguing over something that "supposedly", but probably isn't even real, happend in 70AD???

Like I said, get lives. Its really a lot better than this guys lololol
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08-24-2010 , 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Deorum
Of course it does. According to Concerto that happened in 70 AD.
Yeah i never understood that. Jesus is supposed to come back and have all nations/peoples bow to him after a great war with the Devil/Satan. But clearly that did not happen.


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Originally Posted by RIVERH8SME
U guys really need to get lives. On here arguing over something that "supposedly", but probably isn't even real, happend in 70AD???

Like I said, get lives. Its really a lot better than this guys lololol
I didn't know i couldn't do both. Ty for straightening me out.

Last edited by batair; 08-24-2010 at 11:59 AM.
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08-24-2010 , 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by RIVERH8SME
U guys really need to get lives. On here arguing over something that "supposedly", but probably isn't even real, happend in 70AD???

Like I said, get lives. Its really a lot better than this guys lololol
Yeah guys, come on, let us go get REAL lives where we post on internet forums about how people who post on internet forums have no lives.
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08-24-2010 , 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RIVERH8SME
lololol
@ everyone who replied to RIVERH8SME's post - you dumb troll feeders, get bent!
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08-24-2010 , 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by batair
He is supposed to in revelations, does that count?
Specifics?
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08-24-2010 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
Specifics?
Some Christians believe Jesus will lead an army against Satan and his minions (nonbelievers) in an Armageddon. I dont really want to get into an argument over interpretations it was more of a joke then anything.
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08-27-2010 , 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
There is no evidence there is god and that is enough to conclude there is no god. You seem to expect to find evidence of the negative.

Whilst i cannot conclude with absolute certainty there is no god given i am open to reevaluating upon discovering further evidence (or in this case any evidence) the willingness to change your understanding of the existence of a god does not make one an agnostic.

If atheists are agnostics because they cannot prove with absolute certainly there is no god then i assume you conclude theists are agnostic because they cannot prove with absolute certainty there is a god.
Atheists who are really agnostics are those that backslide back to "we don't know if there is a God reasoning" when things get tough.

It comes down to a matter of personal Beliefs. Some atheists firmly beleive that there is no God, even though many people don't beleive they can prove it. They are actually on the same footing as those that Believe in God, like Einstein and some other sicienctists who believe/d in God. And I beleive this is the way God wants it, He wants us to have the free will to choose.
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08-27-2010 , 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by SOBERMARK
Atheists who are really agnostics are those that backslide back to "we don't know if there is a God reasoning" when things get tough.
Things never really get tough. Ya just dont know what ya dont know.
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08-27-2010 , 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by SOBERMARK
Atheists who are really agnostics are those that backslide back to "we don't know if there is a God reasoning" when things get tough.

It comes down to a matter of personal Beliefs. Some atheists firmly beleive that there is no God, even though many people don't beleive they can prove it. They are actually on the same footing as those that Believe in God, like Einstein and some other sicienctists who believe/d in God. And I beleive this is the way God wants it, He wants us to have the free will to choose.
no backsliding, just your lack of ability to understand the difference between what an atheist is saying regarding different gods.
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08-27-2010 , 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by SOBERMARK
Atheists who are really agnostics are those that backslide back to "we don't know if there is a God reasoning" when things get tough.

It comes down to a matter of personal Beliefs. Some atheists firmly beleive that there is no God, even though many people don't beleive they can prove it. They are actually on the same footing as those that Believe in God, like Einstein and some other sicienctists who believe/d in God. And I beleive this is the way God wants it, He wants us to have the free will to choose.
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It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.
(Albert Einstein, 1954) From Albert Einstein: The Human Side, edited by Helen Dukas and Banesh Hoffman, Princeton University Press
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08-27-2010 , 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SOBERMARK
Atheists who are really agnostics are those that backslide back to "we don't know if there is a God reasoning" when things get tough.

It comes down to a matter of personal Beliefs. Some atheists firmly beleive that there is no God, even though many people don't beleive they can prove it. They are actually on the same footing as those that Believe in God, like Einstein and some other sicienctists who believe/d in God. And I beleive this is the way God wants it, He wants us to have the free will to choose.
So... much... fail...
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08-29-2010 , 02:22 PM
Asking if religion will survive the 21st century is kind of like asking if language, music or math will survive; of course it will. Religion is just something humans do -- it has always been around and always will be. The Christian era might end soon in the West, but something else will replace it, like "Gaianism" or "Singularitarianism". The time is definitely right for a "green Jesus" or Gaian prophet to appear on the scene though, because the "go forth and multiply" Abrahamic religions don’t have much to offer in an era of global warming, ecological overshoot, etc. The traditional religions are in many ways the problem at this point, so if they don’t survive another century that’s fine by me. A religion consistent with science and Enlightenment thinking is what is desperately needed; right now billions of people are imprisoned by ideas rooted in a three millennia old milieu of hostile desert tribes and high infant mortality that is utterly suicidal in today’s technological world.

Last edited by mistergrinch; 08-29-2010 at 02:34 PM.
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08-30-2010 , 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BartJ385
This thread is open to theists as well as atheists and every other -ist.

In the rich countries, the Christian Churches are losing members at record speed. And lots of people who do stay members don't really believe anymore; they just want to avoid conflicts with their family or have some other lazy reason to stay. Obviously their children are even more likely to become atheists.

Other religions don't fare any better in rich countries.

At the same time, the marvels of the world can now almost all be explained by Science, making the good old "God did it" explanation unnecessary.

I am pretty sure that by the end of this century, religion will be all but extinct.

Do you agree or not? Will Religion survive the 21st century? And why (not) ?
What are your arguments for religion dying out in countries that aren't rich countries?
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08-30-2010 , 02:23 PM
I agree, religion will exist as long as humans exist. However a specific religion like Christianity for example will end relatively fast, like all the previous religions have ended.
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08-30-2010 , 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Thijs908
I agree, religion will exist as long as humans exist. However a specific religion like Christianity for example will end relatively fast, like all the previous religions have ended.
When have religions ever ended "fast?" Except in the case of genocide (ie the Cathars--and even then it's not a perfect example), the death of a religion takes a long time, and more often it just ends in syncretism with the new dominant faith (as was the case with Coptic, Syriac, Greek, Roman, Celtic, and Nordic Christianity, with Persian Islam, and with Chinese Buddhism).
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