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Originally Posted by Hainesy_2KT
I'm gonna step up and give you a raw honest answer, you can take it or leave it, i'm not here to debate with you, cos we'll both agree that's pointless.
God simply doesn't work in the way you are implying in your post. Clearly, those tiny percentage of people who witnessed Jesus' miracles, if you accept any at all did, are not the norm. The rest of us have to work for it. Open our hearts, our minds, humble ourselves, and go searching for whatever the reality represented by the word God may actually be, and still, as some in this forum will attest, you may give up before you get anywhere.
You are basically being a lazy spoilt kid, spitting your dummy out of the pram and waving your arms around saying "WHERE'S GOD? I WANT GOD NOW!!! WHY DOESN'T HE SHOW HIMSELF? WA WA WA." All the while even this pathetic search is in vain because it lacks any sort of genuine belief and openness. It has self-importance written all over it.
The situation in which I believe I first experienced God involved me coming inch-close to physical death, fighting for my life for two weeks, and spending the next three or four years mentally, physically and emotionally recovering from the trauma. That is what it took, a sh*tload of suffering and humility and a life and a young person all but destroyed and being rebuilt from the ashes. I don't think I would have got there with anything less, I honestly don't.
Given your current disposition, I imagine it would take something of this nature for you to have a real honest shot at discovering the spiritual reality that lay behind all the negatives and falsehoods you and most people have come to associate with the word God.
You are treating the most serious and significant subject as if it is something trivial, you are searching without wanting to find, without believing there is a real chance you will find, and whilst ridiculing and probably hating the thing you are apparently looking for.
Even as someone who holds no belief in God, surely you can see how pathetic and pointless and therefore invalid that is?
If you're really searching, you're doing it wrong, and if you're happy being an atheist, then just get on and be one already.
Yes I been there before too. I'm not sure if you were like I was before I dealt with adversity but I was very prideful arrogant and believed in myself more than anyone or anything else. I was not humble and meek. I thought I could do it myself but you can only do it by yourself for so long. You can only live in the sense world for so long before living on flesh only exhausts you. The flesh is surely weak.
But now living in the spirtual world I have more energy and life and stamina. Things dont get to me like they use to. I can overcome anything now. I couldn't do it by myself but with gods help I can do anything.
I came to a point in my life where I had more questions than answers so much fear doubt uncertainty about where my life was going and what I was living for. I just couldn't keep living like that. I was very strong willed but in it was my greatest weakness for the strength of my inner will was used in the wrong ungodly way.
Just like in the military you must be broken down and rebuilt from the ground up, the prideful must be broken down and rebuilt up. There is no other way around it. Until you are broken down Rize you won't have the required openness and humble heart to know god your father.
