1. Were not talking about the Koran.

2. I don't think the Koran itself really says that, unless you interpret (misinterpret) it that way.

3. Were not talking about the Koran, were talking about Christianity-neutral religions which don't have homicidal aggression towards Christianity.

4. You're still closing your eyes to my argument for no real reason.



How do you know Atheists don't put effort into understanding the Bible? I bet there's Atheists out there that know the Bible better than you do. I know there is. And following God's word? Why would they do that as an Atheist? That makes no sense. Oh and way to ignore the reality of how Atheists have a questioning personality and that's why they're Atheists. But I guess that's the plan with you. Ignoring reality.

It's not outrageous, It's how off and on Atheists are.



"Searching for the truth" (truth in Christ), in your case means validating God. It's hard to question God and the validity of Christianity when you're trying to validate him by finding "the truth" (Christianity) which is different from "the truth" (dictionary). And please spare me the attempt at saying you meant the dictionary. We both know what "truth" means to a Christian and what you meant.



When they mature into adulthood obviously. Why does it matter? They don't have an innate faith in any specific ideas was my point.




I'd take the proof to get into Heaven, even if it meant having a hard life. What's a lifetime compared to eternity? I have a hard life right now, the only difference is I would be going to Hell if your God existed whereas I'd be going to Heaven if I had proof. So yeah I really wouldn't mind the proof. Although I highly suspect that even if God exists, there is no Hell anyway. But I digress.



But I'm not saying you know everything. Just everything about the meaning of life and our purpose and the nature of our eternal being. Which is a whole lot more than I claim to know. As an Atheist all I claim to know is that there isn't a God. That's it. As an Atheist, I know nothing else.


Already have. I haven't been lying, you just haven't understood what I've been saying.

I have been.

You said that Atheists are Atheists "because they're know-it-alls that have stopped questioning". That's far more ignorant and outrageous than anything I've said. You have been ignoring the core of my argument which is that the same faith which would supposedly grant Heaven would also grant Hell to an unlucky person. Your only response to that is "The Koran says to kill Christians". Come on man.

Some Christians say the universe was made for us and we are the end all be all and the greatest of Gods creation. We rule it all baby (after God of course).

Atheism doesn't say we're created by chance but even if it did i don't see how that affects equality or has anything to to with what we are talking about.

Ok ill try.

No im not to worried about human theory's of our enslavement because they have no impact on if we will get enslaved or not.
I said seems since i have no idea what you are talking about. Maybe it will clear things up if you tell me how atheistic science has an affect on us when it comes to aliens?

I already corrected your layout here.

Ask a theists it i believe Pletho holds this view.

Batair, you are too all over the place for me tonight.

Same for you soontobepro. Your post is also wrong on so many levels. Not sure if you are intentionally being that dishonest but i will give you the benefit of the doubt in the morning. Sleep well.

kool

See ya then. I've not been dishonest about anything. I think at least one of your responses has been somewhat dishonest as it's irrelevant/avoiding answering my point. I don't know if you're being dishonest with yourself, or me, or both of us, but it does seem so. Cheers.

Genesis 1:26
Then God said, 'Let us make humans in our image—in our likeness. And let them rule over the fish of the sea, the birds of the air, the livestock, and all the creatures that creep along the ground.'

Be more specific then.
Yea and i am sure you have a great interpretation of that book along with the books of all religions you are trying to discuss. Who tries to discuss all religions at once anyways?
You made this clear nowhere.

Because you are all over the place.

You don't know what reality is. I have a questioning personality just as much as any other. That didn't stop me from putting effort into finding God. If anything, it helped.

So you can provide proof then...




No, your wrong. Truth has 2 meanings. There is truth, which is exactly what i was referring to, and there is The Truth, which is not what i was referring to.
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When they mature into adulthood...that is no real answer. There are many adults that have had faith in their parents from the moment they were born. There is no connection between growing hair on your chest and losing their innate faith. And your wrong, they specifically have innate faith in their parents.

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Satan had proof, is he in heaven? Oh and i am pretty sure the anti-Christ does not get into heaven...Read Mark 8:12 and Matthew 16:4. You are trying to find God, but you are putting no effort in whatsoever. What you are doing here is not what you are supposed to do. The proof is there, but for some reason you think you are going to find it arguing with Christians about 100 topics at once, while you put words in their posts. GL with that.


So you did not say this:
"Sure, but as a Christian you claim to know all of the hard questions as I said, the entire nature of existence, and the meaning of everything and why everything happens."

I never claimed to know all the hard questions about anything. You just said i claimed that, which is dishonest.

Well it doesn't get more clear then above.
And when you say Thomas had a free ticket into heaven, that is a lie also.

Honestly you are not someone anyone can have a big discussion with. Feel free to make points one at a time and i may respond. Until then you are using these big discussions to twist words around and i am not going to waste hours of my day keeping you on track. One topic at a time.

So because you try to discuss every topic at once and i have a hard time finding out what point you are exactly trying to make, i am being dishonest...

Get real.

And Batair, i am not going to play your game today, and maybe not ever again.

After our discussion up to this post (216):
You had no business typing that. I made it clear several times i was talking about on earth.

I also made it clear several times that i agree with atheists that the atheist view we are not the end all be all because of the possibility of intelligent life elsewhere in the universe, is correct, in their eyes.

There are mirrors if you wanna go lie to yourself. But keep it out of threads.

Matthew 5:8

Exodus 33:20-23

Timothy 2:3-4

Directly at His face...

Your only stopping yourself.

Good.
And i made it clear atheists dont think they rule the earth, that's a Christan position.
No you never said that till now but ok.
Ill post whatever i want but ty for the advice.

Oh no, atheists don't consider man at the top of the food chain, not at all. People aren't working all day at sweatshops for change, not at all.

And like i said batair, i made it clear that i was talking about on earth several times. Do i really need to show you the posts which are before your little post 216?

Duh

Well that clears that up. People in sweatshops means atheists think they rule the earth. Who would of thought, you should right a book.
Wow you really are not all there. I get that and you are still wrong. Some Christians think God made the universe and EARTH for us. Atheism has no teachings on our place on earth or in the universe. Its some Christians who feel humans are the Chosen ones above all else but God, not atheists.
dito

Yea, your right batair, it is people following Christ who are making people work in sweat shops.

Ignored.

Praise be to God.

Two possibilities come to mind:

God doesn't exist.
God exists but He doesn't give a rat's posterior whether you believe in Him or not.

Or you miss the 3rd possibility which is the true one:

You are fighting God right now, and you don't give a rat's posterior to find out whether or not He exists, therefore He is turned away from you just as you are turned away from Him.

What in the **** are you trying to talk about?

I feel like I'm trying to grade a third grader's book report here, at least give me something to work with man. I can't understand this dribble.

Why don't you actually read and figure out what i was talking about.

Does anyone believe Gunth when he say's he's walked into a bank many times with his hood on and never been asked to take it off?

I'd bet my entire net worth that's he's lying. Don't know why I care enough to point this out, but it's just so LOL I couldn't help myself.

I am not lying.