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Why does god hate rich people? Why does god hate rich people?

01-27-2010 , 03:45 AM
It’s all too Christian to value or devalue people based on their monetary worth and to guilt them into giving away all their money until they are poor too…can you find some part of society where hatred of rich people is more common?


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Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
And Jesus looked around and said to his disciples, “How hard it will be for those who have riches to enter the kingdom of God!”
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For it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”
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Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you. — James 5:1
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But woe unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation. — Luke 6:24
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“He who gives to the poor will lack nothing, but he who closes his eyes to them receives many curses.”
-Proverbs 28:27
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“Better a poor man whose walk is blameless than a rich man whose ways are perverse.”
-Proverbs 28:6
The message cannot be clearer. If you have a lot of money and don’t give it away to the church or the poor god presumably casts you into an eternity of fire. Yet people still consider Christianity to be something of moral value and something to aspire to be.

And yet these despicable beliefs continue to flow through otherwise good people.

And before anyone wants to pretend the bible didn’t say this or didn’t mean this:


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Isaiah 40:8 The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever.
It says it and it means it. Only in America can people sit and be fine with the thousands of threats and discrimination the bible casts on various groups of people, and then turn around and call atheists “strident” or “angry” or “bigots” for questioning them.
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01-27-2010 , 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by rizeagainst
It’s all too Christian to value or devalue people based on their monetary worth and to guilt them into giving away all their money until they are poor too…can you find some part of society where hatred of rich people is more common?


The message cannot be clearer. If you have a lot of money and don’t give it away to the church or the poor god presumably casts you into an eternity of fire. Yet people still consider Christianity to be something of moral value and something to aspire to be.

And yet these despicable beliefs continue to flow through otherwise good people.

And before anyone wants to pretend the bible didn’t say this or didn’t mean this:


It says it and it means it. Only in America can people sit and be fine with the thousands of threats and discrimination the bible casts on various groups of people, and then turn around and call atheists “strident” or “angry” or “bigots” for questioning them.
God doesn't hate rich people.

The point using the word rich, has to do with the attitudes that people have even if they are poor.

Money is not evil at all, its neuter.

The key to it all is this; "The LOVE of money is the root of all evil"

Money is not evil, but the LOVE of money is.

Meaning MONEY is all you think about, it is your main driving force, your main motivation.

Most men trust in their money more than they trust in God to supply their needs.

All of the world is set up to make men have to work for money to survive, they are always under someone elses thumb for the most part.

The mentality is MONEY, MONEY, MONEY because thats what we are taught and trained we need to survive in life.

Yes we need money, but there is a way to have sufficiency in life, plenty to live and plenty to give without selling out to the almighty dollar.

Money represents the material, phsical realm. Its hard for people who have lots of material wealth to go after God with all their heart.

To love God with all your heart, mind body and soul requires that your mind is focused on God and the things of God the majority of the time.

A man who LOVES money and the material realm has a mind that is continuously thinking of MONEY or things or of a way to get more of them.

You cant love God and mammon, a overwhelming passion and desire for the material realm.

If you love God and keep Him first in you life, by your thoughts first then He promises to supply ALL YOUR NEEDS. That way you have no sorrow with your riches when they come from God.

Riches gained anyother way always have a barb, a fish hook that someway or another gets you in the end.
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01-27-2010 , 04:51 AM
Depends on which kind of rich. Family rich is dreadful. What are you going to talk about with a person who has never had to choose between a pack of cigarettes or dinner?

Come to think of it, I don't like entrepeneurs either because you're constantly reminded that your Carrera could have been a Turbo if you just put in a little more effort (I don't really have a 911, I just said that for effect).

Buut, the boring explanation is probably that most people aren't rich and (to varying degrees) loathe/envy the ones that are because it seems so nice to be rich from the outside, so an anti-wealth message likely helps the spread of your words.
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01-27-2010 , 05:00 AM
Mass audience ftw ldo.
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01-27-2010 , 05:29 AM
Because he loves believers, and most of them are poor.

Edit: Gah, slow pony.
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01-27-2010 , 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by All-In Flynn
Because he loves believers, and most of them are poor.
+1,000,000
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01-27-2010 , 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Pletho
God doesn't hate rich people.

The point using the word rich, has to do with the attitudes that people have even if they are poor.

Money is not evil at all, its neuter.

The key to it all is this; "The LOVE of money is the root of all evil"

Money is not evil, but the LOVE of money is.

Meaning MONEY is all you think about, it is your main driving force, your main motivation.

Most men trust in their money more than they trust in God to supply their needs.

All of the world is set up to make men have to work for money to survive, they are always under someone elses thumb for the most part.

The mentality is MONEY, MONEY, MONEY because thats what we are taught and trained we need to survive in life.

Yes we need money, but there is a way to have sufficiency in life, plenty to live and plenty to give without selling out to the almighty dollar.

Money represents the material, phsical realm. Its hard for people who have lots of material wealth to go after God with all their heart.

To love God with all your heart, mind body and soul requires that your mind is focused on God and the things of God the majority of the time.

A man who LOVES money and the material realm has a mind that is continuously thinking of MONEY or things or of a way to get more of them.

You cant love God and mammon, a overwhelming passion and desire for the material realm.

If you love God and keep Him first in you life, by your thoughts first then He promises to supply ALL YOUR NEEDS. That way you have no sorrow with your riches when they come from God.

Riches gained anyother way always have a barb, a fish hook that someway or another gets you in the end.
I really do enjoy your posts now that I know you are a level
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01-27-2010 , 06:11 AM
God hates the rich because he is a communist
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01-27-2010 , 09:47 AM
Religious texts are a good read, but until God speaks first hand I prefer not to pass judgement on who the Divine One hates or loves.
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01-27-2010 , 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by All-In Flynn
Because he loves believers, and most of them are poor.

Edit: Gah, slow pony.
LOL.... yea... church's are full of poor people.
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01-27-2010 , 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeyDiamonds
LOL.... yea... church's are full of poor people.
at its beginnings, christianity was almost entirely a sect comprised of the poor.
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01-27-2010 , 11:08 AM
A lot of European countries both hate rich people and are entirely secular.

I think just in general, most people hate rich people (or at least the jealousy manifests as hate)
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01-27-2010 , 11:58 AM
The Kingdom of God (also known as Kingdom of Heaven), as understood by Jesus and his first followers, was an underground kingdom (as opposed to the above-ground Kingdom of Rome) where all the members made sure they were all taken care of ahead of all other priorities (a sort of no-person-left-behind deal). The Romans would tax the place to death and let a third of the population starve, but Jesus' crew was very much against that. The idea was that each person was guaranteed not to go starving or naked or homeless with no way of staying alive, BUT they all had to stick up for each other and give to support each others' needs despite all sorts of dangers and threats and poverty.

Rich people were, in general, not willing to go for this deal, as they already had lots of food, clothing, and shelter. They were not willing to give it all away to the other, needier people in the Kingdom of God in return for the promise that they would be taken care of (seeing as they already were pretty well taken care of anyway).

It's not that the authors of the Christian New Testament hated the rich, it's just that they were well aware that rich people tended to not join them and their cause.
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01-27-2010 , 12:14 PM
God does not exist

But if he did (lets go with it) he still did not write the bible. The bible was written by the people who created religion and no doubt wanted the rich to give them cash.

Richest organisation in the world......Catholic church
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01-27-2010 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by mockjock
The bible was written by the people who created religion
Are you saying religion did not exist prior to The Bible?
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01-27-2010 , 01:03 PM
In one sense, rich = having lots of money.

In another sense, rich is being rich in self, abundantly abounding in ego, bloated with worldly wisdom, opulent in shallowness, prospering in head knowledge, wealthy in pride, loaded with self-preserving strife, sneering in self-sufficiency, prolific in self-admiration, abounding in me-me-me.

For that rich man it is difficult to enter the kingdom of God within him. For the man poor in ego, the one "in spirit", they are blessed for theirs is the kingdom.
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01-27-2010 , 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ajmargarine
In one sense, rich = having lots of money.

In another sense, rich is being rich in self, abundantly abounding in ego, bloated with worldly wisdom, opulent in shallowness, prospering in head knowledge, wealthy in pride, loaded with self-preserving strife, sneering in self-sufficiency, prolific in self-admiration, abounding in me-me-me.

For that rich man it is difficult to enter the kingdom of God within him. For the man poor in ego, the one "in spirit", they are blessed for theirs is the kingdom.

Please tell us HOW to get born again? How to have eternal life in a simple to follow, easy to do way.........

Then please tell me HOW to rightly divide the word of God.

If you can tell me these two things then I will give you some credibility in my mind as someone who knows the truth.
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01-27-2010 , 01:40 PM
Give me your perspective on the African elephant crisis and who you deem to be the best cricket team in the world and if you answer both correctly, perhaps I'll deem you worthy of responding to your questions...
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01-27-2010 , 01:45 PM
Cause' they're harder to convert. They've got gadgets, inflated egos, and air headed but smoking hot women to keep themselves busy. All poor people have is grief and their imaginations.
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01-27-2010 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Pletho
God doesn't hate rich people.

The point using the word rich, has to do with the attitudes that people have even if they are poor.

Money is not evil at all, its neuter.

The key to it all is this; "The LOVE of money is the root of all evil"

Money is not evil, but the LOVE of money is.

Meaning MONEY is all you think about, it is your main driving force, your main motivation.

Most men trust in their money more than they trust in God to supply their needs.

All of the world is set up to make men have to work for money to survive, they are always under someone elses thumb for the most part.

The mentality is MONEY, MONEY, MONEY because thats what we are taught and trained we need to survive in life.

Yes we need money, but there is a way to have sufficiency in life, plenty to live and plenty to give without selling out to the almighty dollar.

Money represents the material, phsical realm. Its hard for people who have lots of material wealth to go after God with all their heart.

To love God with all your heart, mind body and soul requires that your mind is focused on God and the things of God the majority of the time.

A man who LOVES money and the material realm has a mind that is continuously thinking of MONEY or things or of a way to get more of them.

You cant love God and mammon, a overwhelming passion and desire for the material realm.

If you love God and keep Him first in you life, by your thoughts first then He promises to supply ALL YOUR NEEDS. That way you have no sorrow with your riches when they come from God.

Riches gained anyother way always have a barb, a fish hook that someway or another gets you in the end.
Correct.
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01-27-2010 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by rizeagainst
Why does god hate rich people?
Because people who wrote the bible were not rich.
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01-27-2010 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Dying Actors
at its beginnings, christianity was almost entirely a sect comprised of the poor.
Yea...things have changed over the past 2,000 years.
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01-27-2010 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeyDiamonds
Yea...things have changed over the past 2,000 years.
not really
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01-27-2010 , 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeyDiamonds
Yea...things have changed over the past 2,000 years.
well god stopped performing miracles for everyone, but other than that, people are probably the same
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01-27-2010 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Dying Actors
at its beginnings, christianity was almost entirely a sect comprised of the poor.



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Originally Posted by Dying Actors
well god stopped performing miracles for everyone, but other than that, people are probably the same

Financially?

The response I made was to the statement that churches are full of poor people.

Are you saying you believe that churches are still poor?
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