Poker is clearly the most Satanic of games, rewarding as it does such anti-Christian activities as lying, deceiving, stealing, swindling and intimidating. In poker, as in life, the most evil and diabolical win, and the weak, the good and the honest are crushed. In effect, the pantheon of poker gods consists of all the pre-Christian dark gods, whether they be named Set, Lucifer, Ahriman, Kali, Tezcatlipoca or what have you.

I have no doubt that the Black Flame of Satanic genius burns in the minds of the great poker players – Phil Ivey and Tom Dwan, for example, are pure Luciferian sorcerers. Poker players like to pretend that they are good guys, that poker is just another game, a harmless activity, but this is a transparent deception played upon the mundanes.

So, I’m curious to hear from Christian poker players here who play the Infernal Game: What is your justification for engaging in this Satanic activity? And to the non-Christians, I challenge you to openly declare your allegiance to the Adversary, make offerings to the poker gods and celebrate the sinister genius which they make manifest in you upon the green felt.

I don't think you have to be sinister at all to be a great poker player. Deception is far less important than amatuers believe, but even if it was critical, it's within the context of a game where your opponents realize deception is allowed. Deception is only evil if performed on the innocent or unexpected.

Poker is more of an equation that needs to be solved, that a battle of deceipt. The better player can solve the weaker players' equations and exploit them, while the better players' can not be exploited. The nicest person in the world could love this activity--which, again, is moral, because all combatants are willfull participants.

In Genesis, it was Satan who told the truth.

Most competitions have deception and or trickery. Baseball pitchers hide their pitches. The catcher tries to fool the other team with their signs to the pitcher. In football the quarterback tries to trick the other team into offside penalty's by faking the snap calls (thats pretty close to a bluff). Basketball has the pump fake and no look pass....

As far as declaring my allegiance to a being which i dont believe exist. Thats going to be hard. So no.

You forgot the most Satanic game of all, OP:

Anti-Christian?! Add pedophilia to that list and the Catholic church could start the next poker boom.

SHUN THE NON-BELIEVER.
SHUUUUUUUUUN

Op u must be the biggest troll ever or just mentally ******ed.

No, mentally advanced. Mundanes often mistake my thinking for ******ation, because their minds are enslaved by Light Side mental inversions and states of consciousness. For you, a Swede, I would recommend channeling the Wotanic warrior spirit of your Viking ancestors and start slaughtering people if you want to understand what I'm talking about -- awaken yourself to the power of the Dark Side!

Poker is not for the weak-minded and the Christian. If you are a serious player, I think you will find Luciferian spirituality a much better fit for your chosen path than the slave religions (just as, for example, Thuggee stranglers worshipped Kali rather than Brahma). And please don't call me a troll -- Vampire, yes, Satanist, absolutely, Sith Master, perhaps, but never a mere troll!

proverbs 16:33

the bible clearly indicates that the LORD is controlling all gambling events. satan can not help you hit your flush draws.

Good post! Level? Christians and such can't engage in deception to further their agendas? OK LOL Lots of "Christian" used car salesmen! Lots of Jewish shady money guys! Lots of "lets bomb them back to the good ole days" Islamic fundementalists! Sorry man you don't have worship Satan to play good poker, but a nice read regardless!

lol...deep..

Have you ever played "Diplomacy"? Lying and backstabbing are integral to that game. In either case, they are games. Everyone knows the rules and intent, so there is no inherent evil.

Jerry yang must be like some kind of super monster of lies, praying to jesus and being so nice to everyone and giving winnings to charity, but behind all that he was a scheming evil apparition of darkness.

It is sometimes a game based upon greed, it is sometimes a game which magnifies manifestations of negative emotion. I would only play when I needed money.

I would put great poker players closer to Tao

I would agree to this, but you have to define 'rules', a rule of the game could be to only make +ev decisions, poker is a game where people make their own rules. There is definatly alot of unfair advantage.. is it evil to take money off someone behaving mentally unstable and so technically with poor mental health? Its kind of like ****ing a girl who has just been heartbroken... poker is a dirty game.

epic topic.

10/10

keep going. i would post an intelligent response but i want to read everyone else's first.

I do think it is evil to take money off of people who are mentally unstable or with poor mental health, to some extent. I qualify it because it depends on how important that money is to them. But that was not the question. There are many ways of scamming money off of people who are stupid or too trusting. Poker does not require you to do that. It may allow it and it may happen frequently, but that is not the fault of the game. That is the fault of the player.

I have played poker since I was in high school. I played with people of competitive skills, the money involved did not threaten anyone's survival and I never cheated. How is that evil?

I don't disagree that PI and TD are powerful Dark Mages. How do you think they acquired their arcane abilities? Some sort of sacrificial ritual and resultant pact with a demon from the ever-burning realm of chaos?

first of all, im not originally from Sweden. Secondly i am christian and i belive in God, i go to church almost every sunday. Poker has NOTHING to do with ur idiotic satanic stuff. It's a game of skill and has nothing to do with gamling what so ever.

I still think ur one of the biggest trolls on the internet..

Poker has an unfortunate bad image and it will change more and more with time. Poker draws people of low character like stealers and other dishonest people who lack respect. To me big bet poker was difficult for a start as I don't have an unstraight nature, something that comes more naturally to most of the people. But that is/was my problem so poker has been good to me on that correction. There are also other corrections like emotional management and increased mental abilities. Everything is mathematical as well as psychological. Poker is highly educational in many levels, includingalso in being able to act well under stress and beating the Satan, so it's God's training program. The low characters drop out or get better sooner or later as well as they learn a lesson and so all benefit in the long run.

what's the difference between taking money off people who are unstable/ ******ed and someone who makes more mistakes for any reason? NO matter what way you look at it you are playing against someone with a disadvantage and are ruthlessly exploiting this weakness. It is warfare fighting over peoples time, you take 15$ off them and that is 1 hour of their life they just gave you,, the weak get targeted... which is essentially 'not nice' at least.

'This is the fault of the player' - debatable....

poker in itself is not evil, it just is when proportions of peaoples time, and so life, is on the line. Its a slow form or russian roulette but someone knows where the bullet is slightly more likely to be.

So much idiocy here I don't even know where to begin.

Mt.FishNoob: You're using Jerry Yang as an example of poker mastery?

6471849653: Poker is God's training program? Yes, if by God you mean Satan! When was the last time you played live poker? In my experience poker weeds out the godly and leaves the lowest of the low characters, the con men, gangsters and thieves aka poker pros.

Vivek: Poker has nothing to do with gambling? Have you ever watched the top pros play? They are all degenerate gamblers at least as much as they are chess masters. You also sound quite deluded, but then as a Christian I guess the point is redundant...

I think poker rewarded jerry yang pretty well. He may be a master, I do not know what constitutes as a master if it is not winning the wsop. x winrate over 1 million hands? I have only seen <100 hands of his. He would likely have to play alot of hands to not much success to lower his winrate to anything below master just from that one tournament.

I used him as an example (out of humour more than anything) as he clearly advocates very strong Christian,,, 'stuff' ,,,

Is a live nickel dime home game between a few friends who can all afford it Satanic?

EXCELLENT response.

And, wholly accurate.
I just started playing online a month ago. And, I am clearly and unequivocally declaring myself as a CHRISTIAN. Im a lover of Jesus Christ and The Almighty Father God who will reign eternal. My knee only bows to Him. Period.

Now with that said, I would like for you Op to wrap your 'mentally advanced' brain around creating arguments based on a bias and or imagined premise. Your question is already personally answered by your topic title. You already FEEL a certain way about this issue. This is fine. But, to then frame your own personal bias in a way that is presented as FACT is a fallacy in not only logic, but also debate decorum. A properly framed discussion of this manner should start with open-ended questions and or premise.

As for your 'mentally advanced brain', if you were truly in possession of one you would not engage yourself so deeply in fantasy fiction that it clouds your ability to see those around you more clearly. Much to learn, you still have.

Poker is a predatory game
Humans are apex predators
Apex predators must stay strong by culling the weak from their ranks
Thus humans play poker

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