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Originally Posted by Gunth0807
I had way more insight into the theories of science than God's Word before i became absolutely convinced God exists. In fact that has been one of the hardest things about turning back to Him. The fact that i have to drop a huge amount of information that i considered to be true.
What insight did you have? You speak of "just theories" as if that somehow weakens the claims of science - this doesnt seem like insight to me, to be frank, it seems like dismissal.
You speak in this thread as if science and religion are in opposition - what do you think God teaches that contradicts science?
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Seem to contradict each other.
I don't think they seem to at all - it seems to be
your claim that the reason atheists reject God is because it contradicts science. I don't think this is true. (Although a case could be made that 'believing on faith' contradicts the scientific method, I dont think this is the same as contradicting the findings of science).
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An unproven theory can't really contradict anything yet.
The theory of gravity is unproven, yet it contradicts the idea that things might float off into space someday.
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Can you provide an example of something proven to be true that contradicts God's Word? That would be proving religion false, would it not?
I think there are a lot of things which contradict a literal reading of the bible. I dont think the bible is supposed to be read literally - I think science books teach us about nature, the bible teaches us about our relationship with God. They talk about different things, as far as I'm concerned (which is why I'm puzzled at your claim regarding the source of atheists' atheism).
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Do you have an example of something we disagree with regarding Him? I don't remember this being the case yet. But i don't know. If you are saying in general, your right, it is not an easy book to figure out. Not only that there are people/groups that have figured it out but go against it and fool masses. Crazy world.
I'm 100% certain (
) we disagree about a lot, but that isnt important - I am a heretic and only the most charitable of Americans would call me a Christian. (If you're really interested, although I consider this a tangent, one thing we probably disagree on is that if Hell exists, I think it's empty - God will forgive anyone, Hitler and Judas included. I can't see how he'd punish people for failing to be able to shake the skepticism he gave them.)
However, I was speaking in general terms, not specifically about you and I. My point is that you present as evidence for God the existence of "Billions of believers" as if they are united in their claims and the fact is they're not consistent in their beliefs at all - in fact they are often diametrically opposed on fundamental issues. Even if weight of numbers were to somehow be persuasive, the fact that those billions can't agree on basic facts about this "God" they "know" is evidence that perhaps they don't actually know anything.