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08-24-2010 , 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by we're all fishes
...i'm not a ******,
Do you have any evidence to support that claim?
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08-24-2010 , 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Janabis
Do you have any evidence to support that claim?
do you cringe when you make bad jokes and no one laughs at you or with you, say when you're out with a bunch of friends? I mean, thats a pretty sick feeling amirite? guess what, its happening again right now.
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08-24-2010 , 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by we're all fishes
my assertion is that atheism is a religion on a deeper level. i'm not a ******, i know by definition atheism is not a religion.
If atheism is a religion, not collecting stamps is a hobby.
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08-24-2010 , 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by we're all fishes
do you cringe when you make bad jokes and no one laughs at you or with you, say when you're out with a bunch of friends? I mean, thats a pretty sick feeling amirite? guess what, its happening again right now.
Pretty sure you would be voted worst poster in RGT history if we took a vote right now.
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08-24-2010 , 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by rizeagainst
Pretty sure you would be voted worst poster in RGT history if we took a vote right now.
Delicious irony ITT.
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08-24-2010 , 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by we're all fishes
do you cringe when you make bad jokes and no one laughs at you or with you, say when you're out with a bunch of friends? I mean, thats a pretty sick feeling amirite? guess what, its happening again right now.
I laughed.
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08-24-2010 , 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Hardball47
Delicious irony ITT.
Go ahead set up the poll.

Oh wait, you just entered another thread to look for noob comments or to throw ad hominems around and then run away again.

Nothing to say about the actual topic of the thread again, huh?

You use this forum as your own personal soap opera rather than a place to discuss religion. It's pathetic, really.

Although I do love that I've gotten under your skin enough to have you secretly following each post I make within seconds in order to make a post like the one above.
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08-24-2010 , 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by rizeagainst
Pretty sure you would be voted worst poster in RGT history if we took a vote right now.
Oh come on, nobody can just come in here and take that away from Gunth in 13 posts...
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08-24-2010 , 05:37 AM
Might actually be gunth
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08-24-2010 , 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by rizeagainst
Might actually be gunth
another intelligent atheist, you're really connecting the dots bro. but only problem is when a mod does an ip check, he'll see that gunth isn't willing to travel halfway around the world to create a gimmick, he's adamant about his faith i'm guessing, but not that irrational.
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08-24-2010 , 05:52 AM
Again you now seem only interested in replying to miniscule peripheral points and not the actual topic that we started with. I wonder why that is. Also, learn what a proxy is. I would guess basically nobody becomes a new 2+2 user because of it's forum for religion. You came here originally for poker, created a new account, and are now trolling RGT, but of course, will never admit this as an idiotic theist that you are.
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08-24-2010 , 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by rizeagainst
Again you now seem only interested in replying to miniscule peripheral points and not the actual topic that we started with. I wonder why that is. Also, learn what a proxy is. I would guess basically nobody becomes a new 2+2 user because of it's forum for religion. You came here originally for poker, created a new account, and are now trolling RGT, but of course, will never admit this as an idiotic theist that you are.
This is the kind of stuff that gives newcomers a bad impression of the atheists on this board.

And you wonder why I make fun about finding you a hard person to get along with...
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08-24-2010 , 06:09 AM
No I don't wonder why. I don't care. There's a difference.

Once again, I don't know why you think I'm here, but it's not to simply get along with everyone.

I'm here to talk about, you know, like, religion and god and stuff. And that causes rifts between people. I do not care about the rifts, because I do not know anybody on here and do not intend to ever meet anyone on here. I care about the actual arguments.

But, all you can focus on is me. It's the epitome of irony that just a few days ago you accused me of following you around and having obsessions with other posters.

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08-24-2010 , 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by rizeagainst
No I don't wonder why. I don't care. There's a difference.

Once again, I don't know why you think I'm here, but it's not to simply get along with everyone.
You should care. You don't even make an effort to display a modicum of civility. Not getting along doesn't have to mean not having a sense of decency or being polite.

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Originally Posted by rizeagainst
I'm here to talk about, you know, like, religion and god and stuff. And that causes rifts between people. I do not care about the rifts, because I do not know anybody on here and do not intend to ever meet anyone on here. I care about the actual arguments.
I raise your bluff, and say you couldn't tell a good argument from a bad one. A quick glance at your posting history on RGT would show that arguments made are the least thing you're concerned with. Your main focus seems to be belittling anybody that doesn't agree with you.

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Originally Posted by rizeagainst
But, all you can focus on me. It's the epitome of irony that just a few days ago you accused me of following you around and having obsessions with other posters.
Let's not play "he said, she said." You'd be playing a losing game here if you want to play that card. You went to a forum you barely frequent, found a very specific thread, and quoted someone's terrible response in a poor effort to bash me. I followed the most recent topics in the forum where you always happen to lay around and found your drivel.

I think this rivalry - I'm giving you much credit to even call it that - has gone on for long enough. Let's just both move on.
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08-24-2010 , 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Hardball47
You should care. You don't even make an effort to display a modicum of civility. Not getting along doesn't have to mean not having a sense of decency or being polite.



I raise your bluff, and say you couldn't tell a good argument from a bad one. A quick glance at your posting history on RGT would show that arguments made are the least thing you're concerned with. Your main focus seems to be belittling anybody that doesn't agree with you.



Let's not play "he said, she said." You'd be playing a losing game here if you want to play that card. You went to a forum you barely frequent, found a very specific thread, and quoted someone's terrible response in a poor effort to bash me. I followed the most recent topics in the forum where you always happen to lay around and found your drivel.

I think this rivalry - I'm giving you much credit to even call it that - has gone on for long enough. Let's just both move on.
Cool, ready to talk about reasons you believe in god now? Or do you click RGT for some other reason?
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08-24-2010 , 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by rizeagainst
Cool, ready to talk about reasons you believe in god now? Or do you click RGT for some other reason?
Alright, start a thread.
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08-24-2010 , 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Hardball47
Alright, start a thread.
No I get in trouble for that. You can start. Tell me what you believe and why you believe it.

Deal?
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08-24-2010 , 06:55 AM
(although not quite sure why you would want to to talk to me about why you believe, since you apparently think I'm the worst poster in RGT history. I certainly have the gunth's of the world on ignore, myself.)
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08-24-2010 , 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by rizeagainst
No I get in trouble for that. You can start. Tell me what you believe and why you believe it.

Deal?
No, please, I insist. You have no compunction about starting various kinds of threads. What's one more?

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Originally Posted by rizeagainst
(although not quite sure why you would want to to talk to me about why you believe, since you apparently think I'm the worst poster in RGT history. I certainly have the gunth's of the world on ignore, myself.)
Because I'm not an unreasonable man, and whatever reservations I may have about you personally on this sub-forum they don't preclude me from having a civil discussion with you. That is, of course, only if you're willing to play the same game.
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08-24-2010 , 08:28 AM
Atheism is a religion because atheists debate in threads that have been specifically set up for purposes other than debate.

This is a poker forum. There are people on here and passing through this forum who are not atheists and sometimes we like to exchange posts with each other on non-atheist topics. Not every post in RGT cares about atheism or is aimed at it or is concerned about it in even an oblique way.

So yes atheists are every bit as zealous as theists.

If everything was about atheism or this was an exclusively atheist forum they should have put the word atheism in the title when they named this place and laid it out in the rules section but since they didn't I will treat this place as a place to discuss religion, gods and theology with poker players.
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08-24-2010 , 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Conspire
crap, melchys synopsis just totally owned mine
I disagree. Yours was to the point and beautifully succinct.

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Originally Posted by we're all fishes
a real christian never "believes" in jesus and yahweh. a real christian knows jesus and yahweh exists the way an experienced cop knows a criminal is guilty, but cannot prove it in a court of law.
God, I hope not, considering he's supposed to be experienced and all.

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Originally Posted by we're all fishes
do you cringe when you make bad jokes and no one laughs at you or with you, say when you're out with a bunch of friends? I mean, thats a pretty sick feeling amirite? guess what, its happening again right now.
I literally lol'd at his joke, so no.
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08-24-2010 , 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
Christianity is a religion because Christians debate in threads that have been specifically set up for purposes other than debate.
Hmmm... that doesn't seem to work. Maybe:

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Judaism is a religion because Jews debate in threads that have been specifically set up for purposes other than debate.
Unfortunate implications. Try:

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Republicanism is a religion because Republicans debate in threads that have been specifically set up for purposes other than debate.
Mmm, no, we're just gonna have to scrap the whole thing. 'X', it turns out, does not owe its status as a religion to the actions of X-proponents on message boards. Somethin' new every day.
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08-24-2010 , 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by All-In Flynn
Hmmm... that doesn't seem to work. Maybe:



Unfortunate implications. Try:



Mmm, no, we're just gonna have to scrap the whole thing. 'X', it turns out, does not owe its status as a religion to the actions of X-proponents on message boards. Somethin' new every day.
He he...still trying to teach me logic Flynn?

My argument was from psychology and based on observation of behavior.

Psychology draws conclusions from both the irrational and the rational....Maybe it goes some places where logic can't go...

Maybe there are two types of religion anyways: the carnal-spiritual and the carnal. The carnal always exhibits dogmatism/zealotry with or without beliefs. I know I'm sad to say not a true spiritual yet...working on it..just a mere "carnal-spiritual"...I know from comparing myself to people that are more spiritual than me...they always exhibit better humility or patience...I've got a lot of "knowledge" but those supernatural virtues I'm still working on....
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08-24-2010 , 10:05 AM
I lurk in this forum from time to time, but usually don't post here...

However, I must say that in debates (of any type), the ones with the weakest arguements or least valid points are often the ones who fail to actually counter the positions of the other side and merely resort to insulting and attacking their opponents.

Example, see quote #11 from Melchy (which is easily the best laid out counter ITT; no disrespect to the other well said points) and the fact that the OP never once countered any of that.

Richard Dawkins said something akin to this:
A scientist or mathematician will always respect a colleague for disproving his theories, even if he devoted his life to them. No one associated with religion would ever stand for such insolence.

Cliff notes: neener neener neener, I've got a weener.... GTFO OP or post something ****ing relevant.

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08-24-2010 , 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Conspire
crap, melchys synopsis just totally owned mine
His post was good, but yours was pithy!

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Originally Posted by we're all fishes
do you cringe when you make bad jokes and no one laughs at you or with you, say when you're out with a bunch of friends? I mean, thats a pretty sick feeling amirite? guess what, its happening again right now.
I lol'd.


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Originally Posted by we're all fishes
another intelligent atheist, you're really connecting the dots bro. but only problem is when a mod does an ip check, he'll see that gunth isn't willing to travel halfway around the world to create a gimmick, he's adamant about his faith i'm guessing, but not that irrational.
Confirmed gimmick? or long time lurker? I'll go with gimmick.


Oh, and I like the: well its wouldn't be a religion according to the definition of religion, but on a deeper level. If you're a gimmick - well played!
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