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Old 03-21-2019, 12:30 PM   #1
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Is there a name for this belief?

So I've heard this argument that goes something like the following: the universe is infinite, therefore everything possible exists somewhere, at some point in time, at probability = 100%. So there is a god, or was a god, or will be a god almost certainly. In fact, there has to be an infinite number of everything possible, including gods. Is this in line with any major religion?
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Old 03-22-2019, 02:30 AM   #2
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Old 03-22-2019, 10:12 AM   #3
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I agree that full on immortality (can't even commit suicide or die when the heat death of the universe happens) would absolutely be a curse, not a gift.
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Old 03-22-2019, 01:47 PM   #4
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I agree that full on immortality (can't even commit suicide or die when the heat death of the universe happens) would absolutely be a curse, not a gift.
See The Twilight Zone episode entitled "Escape Clause"
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Old 03-23-2019, 11:35 AM   #5
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So I've heard this argument that goes something like the following: the universe is infinite, therefore everything possible exists somewhere, at some point in time, at probability = 100%
I'm pretty sure this stems from the speculations in an infinite number of universes, not an infinite universe. The idea is that if there were an infinite number of universes with varying initial conditions you would end up with the existence of some universe with any possible combination of material reality.


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No, I don't think it is part of any established religion.
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Old 03-23-2019, 12:56 PM   #6
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Of course the Christian belief in immortality with Christ has nothing to do with endless person to person banter. Yes, that form of self centered immortality would be a curse. Maybe that's what hell is.
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Old 03-23-2019, 01:03 PM   #7
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It means more then person to person banter. Everything that can be done has been done ad infinitum including worshiping Christ.
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Old 03-23-2019, 03:00 PM   #8
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It means more then person to person banter. Everything that can be done has been done ad infinitum including worshiping Christ.
Okay, the video seems to focus on human communication, so we can ignore Q's empty words.

Your response assumes you know how long is too long and no longer satisfying with regards to worshiping Christ. Obviously you have no idea if ever worshiping the Creator of the universe gets "boring". Honestly, it's silly to even speculate on something that outside our realm of current perception.
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Old 03-23-2019, 03:13 PM   #9
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Okay, the video seems to focus on human communication, so we can ignore Q's empty words.

Your response assumes you know how long is too long and no longer satisfying with regards to worshiping Christ. Obviously you have no idea if ever worshiping the Creator of the universe gets "boring". Honestly, it's silly to even speculate on something that outside our realm of current perception.
I dont think it silly to think about things like that. You are right though i dont know.
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Old 03-23-2019, 03:23 PM   #10
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So I've heard this argument that goes something like the following: the universe is infinite, therefore everything possible exists somewhere, at some point in time, at probability = 100%. So there is a god, or was a god, or will be a god almost certainly. In fact, there has to be an infinite number of everything possible, including gods. Is this in line with any major religion?
I believe the Hindu Vedas and Vedanta philosophy speak to an endless cyclic recurrence of the cosmos . I'm not exactly sure of the correct terminology but it seems to me that the use of the word "infinite" is more of a western/scientific term which may not translate to the Hindu exegesis.

As far as "many gods", many spiritual appreciations of the cosmos have and
do take notice of many gods. This can include the ancient Greek. Persians, and even to the present time the Hindus.

To be clear as to the idea of "many gods" consider that the world as perceived by these ancient peoples displayed, as for example, the "god of the hearth" or the "spirit of the Rhine" or even the "spirit of a Nation" as per example St. George and the Dragon or Raphael, associated with healing, or Michael associated with knowledge and even cosmopolitanism.

What is going on here is that through an atavistic consciousness the individual saw the spiritual entities behind our sense bound existence. This states that the sense bound existence is the condensation of the spirit, in a manner of speaking.

Of course there are other beings appreciated as per Raphael as the spirit of medicine or Michael as the entry to knowledge to which neither can be said to have an external perception as of a tree (which has its own spiritual entity).

By and large the Hindus have a plethora of supersensible beings and so did the ancient Romans .Homer's the "Iliad and the Odyssey" , if read in an non prejudicial manner can be enlightening .
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Old 03-23-2019, 03:24 PM   #11
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I dont think it silly to think about things like that.
That's a fair point.
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Old 04-01-2019, 01:18 AM   #12
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It means more then person to person banter. Everything that can be done has been done ad infinitum including worshiping Christ.
God is infinite though and we would be with Him, seems like eternity would never get old enjoying an infinite God.
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