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Originally Posted by ChrisV
I read a pretty convincing argument for a historical Jesus that, for reasons which will become apparent, you will not hear from Christian scholars. The argument requires only the contents of the Gospels plus logic.
Luke and Matthew both contain a ludicrous story of how Jesus, even though he was referred to as "Jesus of Nazareth", was born in Bethlehem. The goal is to validate the supposed prophecy in Micah 5:2 that the Messiah would be born in Bethlehem (that Micah 5:2 prophesies this in the first place is dubious in the extreme, but that's another story). So the argument runs: how did this idea that Jesus was "Jesus of Nazareth" arise? If the earthly Jesus was a story fabricated by early Christians, wouldn't Jesus just have been "Jesus of Bethlehem" in the first place? There is no reason why Nazareth would be mentioned as Jesus' home town, it was a tiny village not appearing in the OT. Plainly the Gospel writers had to work from an existing story that was at times inconvenient. There are many other examples of them doing their best to work around incongruous facts.
Like I said, you won't hear this argument from Christians, because it requires acknowledging that the Gospel writers (or whoever they're cribbing from) were perfectly willing to just make **** up if things weren't Messiah-ish enough as they stood.
The Gospel of Matthew (2nd or 3rd chapter) clearly states that Jesus was taken to Egypt in a prophetic anticipation of the killing of all 2 year olds by Herod.
Upon return his family went into Galilee and thereupon he became known as a Nazarene, or Jesus of Nazareth.
There are some interssting imoressions of the whole matter as there were two known Jewish sects known as Essene's and the Nazarene's. John the Baptist was a Nazarene but there is some question as to he was a total member, so to speak.
The two sects approached matters esoterically and Jesus of Nazareth, in his early days, communicated with the Nazarene's but was not a member of the cult (said in its best sense) . They witnessed his depth of his comprehension and he spoke to and supped with the geniuses of the sect.
There was another sect known as the Therapeutae, in ancient Egypt, I believe that they were similar in nature. All the sects had a stand of communal living and extreme devotional appreciation of Judaism and cosmic origins .
In any case, either city or geographical center but consider the origin of the word from the esoteric society called the Nazarene's.
Bye the bye, no records will be found, and if so, only obliquely of Jesus of Nazareth . Although not appatrent to historical scholarship the Gospel of John was written to a witness to the events of that time for this gospel was written by the "risen Lazarus" whom is referred to as John but not the son of Zebedee.
Lazarus was the first Christian initiate , initiated by Christ Jesus and is the writer of the Acts of the Apostles, the Revelation of John, and the John Gospel.
The Gutenberg Bible was first printed in the 15th century and to expect written records to come to one because everyone writes a book now is a faulty thought. Sorry, things are just not as easy or facile as one would like.