Well, if you don't think the woman in the bible is man's equal what exactly are you arguing against?

I don't play the claim game or burden of proof either but the Chinese have been selecting the oldest son since the days of the Mandarins. Sons were the ones taking the requirement exams hoping to become high ranking mandarin officials. I even had a Chinese friend once who'd lived in Malaysia who told me that due to Islamic quotas on the minority Chinese in Malaysia only 1 child per family could go to college. Since the Chinese families could only send one it'd usually be the oldest son who went to college.

Obviously there is chauvinism throughout the world and in many places where Christianity is a minor to non-existent factor. If atheists want to ignore it that's their choice but its not an informed choice. Its something they choose to do because it pleases them to do so in support of their political position.

Just addressing the scriptural misinterpretation.

Even if some Christians have misapplied scriptures in the past, not all have and in the present a lot of people are improving over past historical performance.

Sure, there is chauvinism in non-Christian countries. Did anyone dispute that?

You said, essentially, that such places would be less chauvinistic if they were more Christian, which is absurd given your religion's history. And stop talking about scripture being misinterpreted and look at the scriptures quoted for you in a previous post. They don't have to be misinterpreted, your book is crystal clear.

And I'll let you off the hook on your alleged connection between Confucius and male chauvinism. I think it's a safe bet that what you know about Confucius wouldn't fill a thimble.

I really hope you're a troll, Splendour. I don't think you are, but I sincerely hope so.

Then again, perhaps there is no better proof that there isn't a god than to listen to the rantings of his followers.

Do me a favor and don't direct any more posts my way. You're an ideologue.

Eddi cherrypicked the scriptures to make Christianity look bad.

Atheists are not to be considered experts on Christians because: 1) they don't study the scriptures with care and 2) they don't put into practice any of the scriptures.

Most people know the second Golden Rule to love others covers a multiple of sins. Too bad an atheist doesn't understand something so elementary.

I started this thread. No one made you join it. You can't expect to jump in and spill whatever unsubstantiated crap you want to and not be addressed in response, by me or anyone else.

L... O... L...

Have fun under your bridge...

Illuminati ability to trigger earth quakes anywhere around the world. Not saying this is what happened just throwing out a theory

EDIT: This is a theory thousands of people believe not just whacked out propoganda

Thanks for the heads up.

standard thought. Its worse... not a troll. It doesn't get any better no matter how many ways you rephrase your question.

I'm actually not 'going anywhere' with this question, Splendour, I'm just curious what you mean?

conspiracy theory thread is thataway

If were talking about the Haiti earthquake and the politics/ enviromental reasons behind it my comment may be out of line but since its in the religion thread talking about god its perfectly fine imo here

I mean...I'm probably going to regret asking this Q, but why do you think the Illuminati have the ability to create earthquakes anywhere in the world and exactly how do they do this?

There is a more exact theology phrase for Adam's stance in relation to his descendents. The term is "federal headship".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_headship

CARM elaborates on it here:
http://www.carm.org/federal-headship

Today we have psychology and its theory of personality. Psychology explains that you have some people who are more dominant and some people who are more submissive. You also have people that are shockingly out of balance in these areas. Some people are way too domineering and some people are way too submissive. So there's a range or continuum of personality types of aggressiveness on the human scale.

If you look at Christ he never models the tyrant. He's the man perfectly self disciplined and He leads. He's a shepherd. Shepherds lead and in Christ's case he leads us into the path of righteousness for his name's sake. Christ is the model for all Christian men. So if they are acting like tyrants or control freaks or are overly passive all they have to do is look to Christ for his example and guidance.

The only way to quote scriptures is to pick what's relevant. That's what Eddi did, that's what you do too. He only argues that the woman is not man's equal. See sarcastic quote below.

It's your assumption that he wanted to make Christianity look bad. For all you know, he might have been thinking that headship=leadership all along. Which still supports the woman's unequal status as you have agreed yourself.

Did you miss something in this thread?

I'm not arguing that women are men's equal. That that is a concern of mine is an assumption of Eddi's.

I don't think God intended "equality" of the sexes. I thinking he intended interactive compatibility. Just because people can't make the distinction and carry it out doesn't change God's purpose.

I originally comented on this:

This was your reply to Eddi's post, where he claimed that women in the bible don't have equal status to men. If the post above was expressing your agreement with Eddi's point, I don't have an argument with that. Except maybe you should express your agreement in a more conventional way in the future.

I love when Splendour talks about China/Chinese history like shes some sort of expert. Here is one of her classics:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/13...ianity-413304/

its fascinating to see how quickly her posts devolve into posting random links of things she's read that have no bearing on the OP. It reminds me of trying to have a discussion with people who are on mushrooms whose attention changes by the second.

Male chauvinism is the number 1 reason for divorce in China according to the Sarasota Herald tribune which says:

"For instance if a man beats his wife he is told that this is "wrong thinking" on his part, that he has been influenced by the feudal concept that woman is man's property, and he is reeducated by his group."

http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...g=6809,2259281

Chauvinism...exists with or without religion...It certainly exists in primarily atheist China.

Please stop trying to educate others, Splendour. The Bible says its not your place.

Also- China has plenty of human rights problems. You constantly deflecting to China does nothing to distract from the chauvinism of your god and your religion.

It boggles me how religious men with such a limited understanding of God, could possibly attribute this to him/she/it. Isnt it blasphemous in nature for the petty religious minds of man to blame god for such a horrible natural disaster?

The idea that god punished haitian people for a pact with the devil is obscene and archaic primitive thinking.

People should be disgusted in themselves for thinking it is anything but a natural disaster of epic proportions.

Whatever you say PEE Meister.

See post #40: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/13...=#post16579371

wtf? are you a child?

I think you should be having this conversation with kurto. He thinks peeing on floors is proper gamesmanship.