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Originally Posted by dknightx
so concerto, do you believe that humans will have free will in heaven?
Yes, though one's nature is changed by the (Biblical) "born again" experience of going to heaven, so to not choose evil.
"For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory."
-- 1 Corinthians 15:53-55 (describing what was yet future at the time, a reality now)
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Originally Posted by TexArcher
How is it semantic? If god lost some of his power, even if he gave it up voluntarily, then he became something less than omnipotent.
In fact, the Latin "omni" means universally, so if you're omni-potent, you're all powerful, all the time. So is it even possible for an "omnipotent" being to choose to give up some of his power without negating that he was ever omnipotent at all?...
God kept all His power but committed to using it in certain agreed ways in the context of different covenants. I don't have an opinion about how "omni-" applies to that.
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Are you suggesting that having eternal heavenly bliss or hellish suffering doled out buy a being that is less than all-powerful is "not a problem"? Nor is it a problem that an allegedly omniscient being wouldn't have seen this conundrum that he created for himself coming?
No, at least for the reason that there is no suffering in (Biblical) hell.
hell = the grave, corruption, death
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Originally Posted by All-In Flynn
So what does the first part mean? IOW, why is the word 'science' in there, rather than one of the two alternatives I suggested?
In either case, the charlatan (imo) in question is proselytizing a dubious message disguised as something else, the legitimate pretexts being Christianity and the scientific method of investigation respectively.
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Originally Posted by Arouet
you're clearly not as benevolent as God.
The creation of humanity is hard to beat in terms of philanthropy.
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Originally Posted by Dying Actors
Quick question for theists: Pat Robertson has stated that Haiti was hit with the earthquake because they made a pact with the devil.
Sadly, I am unable to disprove this statement of his. And yet, I do not believe it is true. Does my inability to disprove his statement bar me from being justified in not accepting it? Or am I indeed justified in not accepting the statement?
And please explain your answer.
Depends on what your personal criteria for justified belief are. What are they?