Theists: Do you believe in... (list) - Page 3 - Religion, God, and Theology

Since this thread went to the dogs with ******ation in argumentative form, I decided to rank these in order of awesomeness instead.

Disclaimer: Vampires are last on the coolness scale due to the Twilight series, don't blame me.

0. Yeti Zombie
1. Zombies
2. Voodoo/Curses
3. Ghosts
4. Yeti
5. Alien abductions
6. Werewolves
7. Loch Ness Monster
8. Chupa Cabra
9. Big Foot
10. Divination
11. Tarot
12. UFO sightings
13. Amulets/crystals
14. Horoscopes/astrology
15. Vampires

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08-11-2010 , 02:26 PM

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Since this thread went to the dogs with ******ation in argumentative form

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Is there concrete proof for the letter N?

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08-11-2010 , 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Draidin

Example:

context, my friend. context.

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08-11-2010 , 02:59 PM

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I concur!

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08-11-2010 , 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TexArcher

I'm curious as to how many of these things theists believe in. Please state your religious affiliation and answer Y/N. Explanations for why you answer Y or N would be great if you feel like it.

Do you believe in...

1. Horoscopes/astrology
2. Palm reading/Tarot card reading
3. Other forms of divination of the future -- I Ching, etc.
4. Voodoo/curses
5. Amulets/crystals with the power to protect or heal
6. Ghosts
7. Vampires
8. Werewolves
9. Zombies
10. Loch Ness Monster
11. Big Foot
12. Yeti
13. Chupa Cabra
14. UFO sightings
15. Alien abductions of humans

I can say as a bonafide Mexican-American that the Chupa Cabra is in fact real! Damn things killed my goats, and drank their blood! Seriously!

As for the rest,

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08-11-2010 , 04:31 PM

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context, my friend. context.

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08-11-2010 , 06:35 PM

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You are no longer allowed to display the UT anything in anything you ever do...ever.

Im pretty sure Jesus was a zombie.

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08-11-2010 , 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rizeagainst

1. no
2. no
3. no
4. no
5. no
6. no
7. no
8. no
9. no
10. no
11. no
12. no
13. no
14. no
15. no

Agreed, I can't imagine an atheist being yes on any of these things.

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08-12-2010 , 03:07 AM

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Agreed, I can't imagine an atheist being yes on any of these things.

You should come to a country where atheism is more mainstream, and I'll show you many atheists who believe in tarot, crystals, ghosts, healers and whatnot while simultanously stating quite categorically that "god does not exist".

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08-12-2010 , 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by tame_deuces

I agree. Where atheism is the default, you can't infer anything about their other beliefs (ironically a claim often made on this forum where it probably isnt true).

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08-12-2010 , 08:13 AM

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it appears op is in some way trying to undermine anyone who answers "yes" to any of thoose questions.

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08-12-2010 , 10:47 AM

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it appears op is in some way trying to undermine anyone who answers "yes" to any of thoose questions.

Not sure why you think that. I don't think belief in any of those things is any more ridiculous than believing Jesus was born from a virgin and came back from the dead, or that Muhammad flew to heaven on a horse, etc, etc.

I do find it interesting that so many theists are able to to spot the absurd in just about every instance except for when the absurd occurs in their holy book of choice. Then they willingly accept it.

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08-12-2010 , 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tame_deuces

If I was in the religion business, I would see such a place as fertile territory to pick up converts.

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08-12-2010 , 12:25 PM

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You have a very simplistic view of what theism is. That weakness in your understanding is the reason you cannot understand the outcome of your survey and indicates that your atheism is not enlightened at all. You are just blindly following a different dogma.

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08-12-2010 , 12:56 PM

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I agree. Where atheism is the default, you can't infer anything about their other beliefs (ironically a claim often made on this forum where it probably isnt true).

Yep. Most atheists I know have some unsupported beliefs and won't fit the "typical atheist on 2+2" model.

This is why the "santa claus" comment fits. Many people believe in lucky shirts and pyramid power that don't believe in god. They think their belief has some grounds, just as a theist believes theirs does. To a non-believer in either, they both fall under "believing in stuff without worthy evidence".
Question them and you'll get versions of -- "I can show you my winnings when I wore the red shirt - show me your god"

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08-12-2010 , 05:53 PM

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You have a very simplistic view of what theism is.

Not really. I've studied several different religions in detail (which most theists have not; they know a lot about one and almost nothing about the others).

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That weakness in your understanding is the reason you cannot understand the outcome of your survey and indicates that your atheism is not enlightened at all. You are just blindly following a different dogma.

Choosing to not accept miraculous claims that are not supported by proof is not blindly following something. It's basically the exact opposite.

It is a simple, undeniable, and fascinating (to me at least) fact that most religious people readily reject almost every other baseless superstition except their own.

Why is that?

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08-12-2010 , 07:26 PM

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16. Dust

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08-12-2010 , 09:07 PM

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Not really. I've studied several different religions in detail (which most theists have not; they know a lot about one and almost nothing about the others).

I used to teach chemistry so I recognize that there is a big difference between studying and understanding.

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08-12-2010 , 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RLK

lol

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08-13-2010 , 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by brandx

If I was in the religion business, I would see such a place as fertile territory to pick up converts.

And you would be horribly wrong in assuming so.

Organized religion comes with a lot more than some superstitious beliefs, and around here I would usually say it's the remaining package that leaves so many people to view it in a negative light. The political squabbles, the conservatism, the lack of egality, the lack of compromise etc...and the issues are so huge that having a fair bit of charitable followers just isn't enough to make it go away.

It's not the general idea of "god" that drives most people away, it's the seemingly horrible (and empirically unsupported) nature of the specified ones.

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08-13-2010 , 04:40 AM

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Yep. Most atheists I know have some unsupported beliefs and won't fit the "typical atheist on 2+2" model.

But fine if that's how you wanna play this game, Most of my Christian friends believe in zombies and werewolves

I can tell you right here and now an atheist will NEVER have an unsupported belief. N E V E R

This argument of "atheists i know believe in this and that and blabla" seriously has to GO, no atheist on this forum believes in ANY of that

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08-13-2010 , 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Thijs908

There are even atheistic religions that are based on belief in spirits and ghosts (animalism, various forms of shamanism etc), so your post does not really compute unless it's some sort of poorly worded sarcasm.

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08-13-2010 , 05:05 AM

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I can tell you right here and now a true atheist will NEVER have an unsupported belief. N E V E R

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08-13-2010 , 05:20 AM

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I can tell you right here and now an atheist will NEVER have an unsupported belief. N E V E R

There's one. (Unless you're not a true atheist, of course - whatever that means).

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08-13-2010 , 05:29 AM

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There's one. (Unless you're not a true atheist, of course - whatever that means).

Bunny pwnage?

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