suggesting that these 3 are at similar levels of closemindedness is wrong imo, if thats what you were implying.

Why would it shift?

Take it to the probability forum. The posters are twice as smart as the average atheist and will be unbiased.

well, there is a process called Precession

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precession_(astronomy)

the earth rotates about its axis in about 26k, but don't worry, astronomers know about it

I obviously meant shift in an unpredictable manner that hasn't been taken into account by the folks who predict eclipses.

heh, that obviously wont happen though...unless we get struck by a meteor or comet or something...

BigErf and Splendour have their fingers crossed! Won't a fiery death for all of mankind be like so cool?!?

You can't play cards in Vegas too long without having an opinion.

Go read some history. I can't believe you don't realize how ignorant you sound saying stuff like this.

Even for someone that says at least twenty mind-numbingly dumb things every day, this makes me think you're actually insane. I feel extremely sorry for your daughter. (even more than I did before)

You're certainly filled to the brim.

I am speechless. Seriously.

Atheists on this board have pointed out contradictions with how you speak of your God based on how the world is.

FOR ****ING EXAMPLE:

The Bible clearly states that god loves all the children in the world. An atheist might say, "orly? what about the 16k kids that starve to death in Africa every day? Where is your all-loving, all-powerful god when it comes to these starving kids?"

Clearly, because obvious contradictions are pointed out regarding your god's character, we all think the world is a hell-hole.

I would write more about how ridiculous your claims are, but the three of you clearly only hear what lines up with your beliefs, and you let the rest go out the other ear.

Naw, I know the real reason.

You're freaked out every day of your life that your god isn't real. You want your worrying and wondering to be over.

You just want to find out, RIGHT NOW, if there is a magic man in the sky.

Every day a war is waged inside your head. Some days you win and some days you lose. Must be a bitch, and I don't blame you for wanting it to be over.

Why don't you go fish in Alaska and just lean real good over the edge when the waves are really big and rough. (careful, don't force yourself over because suicide could equal hell) Just sort of don't try to keep your balance if you know what I mean. No more waiting, no more worrying.

Atheist morality?

None here.

Atheism is not a religion, it doesn't connote a specific belief-set or moral code, and it doesn't convey anything about someone other than their non-belief in a deity. Most theist religions are quite different, which is why it is often used as an (admittedly weak) argument against religion.

yes they are, and we can predict the shift in the axis as well.

I know its possible I read about it on wiki and the bible in Revelation says the earth's orientation will change to the East.

Does the Earth naturally shift by a tiny measure all the time?

It is rotating in a conical shape at rate of one cycle every ~26k years or so.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obliquity_of_the_ecliptic

that can explain the specifics better than I can

Why are the kids starving? What is behind the famine? I've been to Africa; I've been on the ground and I've talked, eaten, and worshiped with the people. I've been in people's homes with mud floors and stick walls. Why do you come in here and assume that you know more than me and everybody else?

You have access to the greatest research tool in the world, the Internet. Do you care about the starving children? Do you? Then research the problem.

God Bless you Mempho. You're a real explorer. I keep recommending that too.

A bunch of atheists daring to claim scientific objectivity yet they never bother to research claims?

Most of the regulars in RGT are trolls.

Now the real scientists I can understand getting confused and cut off from God. Because the devil is in the details and the devil always builds his lies on a partial truth. Still there are some people who don't even do the research because they don't want to examine things. They like where they are at and can't understand that to be with God is a far better place and if they never research everything they will stay in that conclusion.

Change to the east? What does that even mean?

Yes. That one post is definitely undeniable proof that atheist have no morals.

Just how this post shows that Christians have no morals amirite?

What did I say that made you believe that I think I know more than everyone else? I absolutely know more than you, but not everybody else.

Even though this is not the issue at hand...How do you know how much research I've done on this issue? What the **** does that even have to do with the real issue of this discussion?

You're just one epic fail after another.

Ahhh, love how you're just jump to these conclusions with absolutely no basis for them. It's no wonder you believe in god.

I knew at least one, and probably all three of you guys would start trying to give reasons and explain away why kids are starving in Africa. It was an example.

Annnnnnd you talking about others not wanting to examine things is LOL hilarious.

You issued a judgment (that starvation in Africa is a Biblical contradiction) as if it were a fact. That is a very presumptive (hence arrogant) statement. If you do have proof, I'd like to see it before I waste any more of my life on these "fairy tales."


If you'd researched this issue at all, you'd know that starvation in Africa is neither random nor an accident nor the "will of God" nor any proof of the absence of God.

Do not confuse yourself with one of the more intellectual atheists on this board. That was the very example of your argument.

Now, tell us about your research on starvation in Africa. If you have researched it, I'd love to discuss it.

Thanks. And, you're correct...the devil's always in the details.

You are awfully close-minded about this topic.

I don't have to explain every situation that a non-believer takes exception to.

Genesis says God put everything under man's power then man was corrupted.

He tells us what to do in his bible to correct things. We're the ones not

heeding it.

I can provide reasons why it is a biblical contradiction but you've heard them before and you'll do what you always do, which is ignore reason itself.


LOL then what is it?


Thanks for putting words into my mouth again. I don't have to be one of the more intellectual atheists on this board to know you're an idiot. There are 2nd graders that can think logically better than you.

It's not up to me to provide evidence on this as none is needed because it's so simple. It's obvious that children being born without a change to survive goes against the idea that your god is all-loving to anyone that can think logically. You don't need to do countless hours of research to see this.

This is like when you asked RoundGuy to prove that he has extensively researched/read the bible lol.