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Read the quote from the rules thread, this forum is for discussing religion not a forum for the vaguely religious.

Pointing out flaws in your beliefs and questioning behaviour that is hypocritical is not deriding you.

"Abusive behavior will not be tolerated:

Abusive behavior includes, but is not limited to,

-Personal attacks ex. Theists are dumb"

You seem to spend a lot of time doing this. Here's a rather nasty example

"This is not the happy clappy christianity forum to discuss how jesus bummed you in a dream last night."

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09-27-2012 , 12:40 AM

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LEMONZEST

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What were they being judged for? Following him? Again I ask, how is this not forcing beliefs on someone if the option is believe it or be judged then killed?

Apparently you are just a troll because you repeatedly show an unwillingness or inability to read. Read the quote from the rules thread, this forum is for discussing religion not a forum for the vaguely religious.

Pointing out flaws in your beliefs and questioning behaviour that is hypocritical is not deriding you.

In a way you are correct.
Passing judgement is a way of forcing morals on to someone.

I would revise my statement to read, "God doesn't force his morals on humans currently". That is to say right now God allows people to live however they want. However, there will be a judgement when people die which may or may not seem just to you or me.

We would need a specific example from the OT to know why God did something. Also I can't claim to be able to perfectly know or answer why God passed judgement. We can discuss specific examples if you want.

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09-27-2012 , 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Cwocwoc

That was me using humor to reinforce the point that being offended by something isn't a good reason to call for it to be banned, a highly topical issue world-wide right now.

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09-27-2012 , 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by LEMONZEST

So free will is an illusion then? If the result of choosing any of the millions of options that aren't the one "correct" one is death then that clearly isn't a real choice is it?

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09-27-2012 , 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by deaders

That was me using humor to reinforce the point that being offended by something isn't a good reason to call for it to be banned, a highly topical issue world-wide right now.

Here you are again.

"If something offends you then either **** off or ignore it. The rest of the world is not here to be moulded to fit your infantile belief system."

It's funny how you only take notice of the forum rules which suit you.

The first line of the bully's charter is "I was only joking". You carry on you've got your mates behind you on here and I'm new.

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09-27-2012 , 01:04 AM

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So free will is an illusion then? If the result of choosing any of the millions of options that aren't the one "correct" one is death then that clearly isn't a real choice is it?

Actions have consequences. What's your problem with that ?

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09-27-2012 , 01:05 AM

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Is it easier to keep things on an imagined personal level than to address the bigger questions at hand?

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09-27-2012 , 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Cwocwoc

Actions have consequences. What's your problem with that ?

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09-27-2012 , 01:10 AM

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Is it easier to keep things on an imagined personal level than to address the bigger questions at hand?

Your abuse is "big". You haven't addressed any moral or ethical matters you just call others intolerant and get abusive and profane instead.

Now answer the last point. Why do you think that actions should be without consequence ?

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09-27-2012 , 01:19 AM

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Is this your best answer ?

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09-27-2012 , 01:20 AM

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Do you not understand what the roll-eyes smiley means in that context?

Edit: Apparently not.

Lets keep it simple. Whether or not actions have consequences is not up for debate here that is just childish and quite the patronising question. If you can't follow the discussion then I am not here to hold your hand and walk you through it.

If this is the standard level of debate on this forum then that's disappointing.

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09-27-2012 , 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Cwocwoc

Now answer the last point. Why do you think that actions should be without consequence ?

What actions? The only action insofar as I can see it is the refusal to believe in and accept Jesus Christ. Preposterous. Should you go to Tartarus for refusal to believe in and accept Zeus?

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09-27-2012 , 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by asdfasdf32

Anyone else think Cwocwoc just outed himself as a troll?

You should see him posting in the Politics forum. It's all the same where you can't separate a troll from the truly ignorant who are unable to process someone else's post. Cwocwoc is very set in his mind and will ignore any logic in a post in order to stay that way. He seems to be ruining this thread, personally.

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09-27-2012 , 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by deaders

Lets keep it simple. Whether or not actions have consequences is not up for debate here that is just childish and quite the patronising question. If you can't follow the discussion then I am not here to hold your hand and walk you through it.

If this is the standard level of debate on this forum then that's disappointing.

You don't seem to inderstand anything though so let's start at the beiginning. You have free will but your actions will have consequences. This does not mean that you were not free to do whatever it is you want to do. What's your issue with that ? Please reply in words not smileys and without profane personal abuse thrown in for "humour". Ta.

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09-27-2012 , 01:30 AM

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I, for one, vote for 'Male Splendour' as Cwocwoc's undertitle.

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09-27-2012 , 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Cwocwoc

The only 'action' that has consequence is non-acceptance. Well, that, and being born, I suppose.

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09-27-2012 , 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ganstaman

I'm sorry if I'm out of your league intellectually but you can't expect me to dumb down and agree with nonsense just because it suits you. I expect you to to try to keep up and your name-calling isn't going to change that.

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09-27-2012 , 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Cwocwoc

No.

Apparently it is well known that you are a troll so I won't bother.

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09-27-2012 , 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by asdfasdf32

What actions? The only action insofar as I can see it is the refusal to believe in and accept Jesus Christ. Preposterous. Should you go to Tartarus for refusal to believe in and accept Zeus?

If you live a good life you will be rewarded.

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09-27-2012 , 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Cwocwoc

I'm sorry if I'm out of your league intellectually but you can't expect me to dumb down and agree with nonsense just because it suits you. I expect you to to try to keep up and your name-calling isn't going to change that.

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09-27-2012 , 01:36 AM

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If you live a good life you will be rewarded.

You haven't read your Bible, have you?

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09-27-2012 , 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by deaders

No.

Apparently it is well known that you are a troll so I won't bother.

Try the big issues not the personalised stuff. That's your own advice in case you'd forgotten.

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09-27-2012 , 01:39 AM

#99

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Originally Posted by asdfasdf32

You haven't read your Bible, have you?

You're taking it too literally.

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09-27-2012 , 01:42 AM

#100

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Originally Posted by Cwocwoc

You're taking it too literally.

You know, I would argue exegesis with you, but instead I've decided to take a page out of the book of deaders ...

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