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09-26-2012 , 10:58 PM
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But that is the express purpose of this forum. If this is your attitude to religion then why are you posting on the religion forum ?
You appear to be mistaken.
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09-26-2012 , 11:06 PM
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And you should post your descriptions of sexual practices elsewhere, if you have to do it at all. This is the Religion board not the porn board.
seriously though I think you misunderstand ASDF's avatar.

In the UK it is rude to flash someone a "v" signal with your hand correct?

That is not rude in the US, it is a difference in cultures.
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09-26-2012 , 11:15 PM
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Seriously is basic reading comprehension that hard? I was talking about the behaviour of christians in this thread being a typical example of how the majority of them behave when faced with disagreement to their views.

Thank you very much for demonstrating another obnoxious christian/religious behaviour later on in the thread - demanding something be removed/stopped because you don't like it.

If something offends you then either **** off or ignore it. The rest of the world is not here to be moulded to fit your infantile belief system.
I agree with the spirit of what you are saying.
Christianity and the morals that go along with it are not something that should be forced on people

Not even God himself forces his morals onto people.
I don't understand why Christians feel the need to force their morals on to other people.

No one is going to want to play by the rules of a game they don't want to play in the first place.
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09-26-2012 , 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by LEMONZEST
I agree with the spirit of what you are saying.
Christianity and the morals that go along with it are not something that should be forced on people

Not even God himself forces his morals onto people.
I don't understand why Christians feel the need to force their morals on to other people.


No one is going to want to play by the rules of a game they don't want to play in the first place.
While that is a reasonable response the bolded is completely untrue. The old testament is full of cases where god killed vast numbers of people because they worshipped other gods or didnt obey the letter of his law. Obey me or die is pretty much the definition of forcing your beliefs on someone is it not? I can pull out verses if required.

Then in the new testament there are multiple instructions to go into the world preaching, again is that not forcing your beliefs on someone?

You seem to be uncomfortable with the (you must admit) widespread obnoxious behaviour of people from the same belief system as you and seem to be uncomfortable with the notion of preaching. Are you sure you need to remain a christian?
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09-26-2012 , 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by LEMONZEST
I agree with the spirit of what you are saying.
Christianity and the morals that go along with it are not something that should be forced on people

Not even God himself forces his morals onto people.
I don't understand why Christians feel the need to force their morals on to other people.

No one is going to want to play by the rules of a game they don't want to play in the first place.
But what's he doing here if he doesn't to play the game in the first place ?

I disagree with you. It is up to people of morals and values to keep society's values going. Wrongdoers should be named and shamed as an example to others.
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09-26-2012 , 11:36 PM
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seriously though I think you misunderstand ASDF's avatar.

In the UK it is rude to flash someone a "v" signal with your hand correct?

That is not rude in the US, it is a difference in cultures.
It's profane it means eff off. Maybe the Americans should try a bit harder not to offend others. The worst that could happen is that you would end up a bit classier.
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09-26-2012 , 11:44 PM
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It's profane it means eff off.
Not here.

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Maybe the Americans should try a bit harder not to offend others.
Maybe you should try a bit harder not to be so easily offended.

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The worst that could happen is that you would end up a bit classier.
The worst thing would be that my freedom to express myself would be encroached upon.
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09-26-2012 , 11:44 PM
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But what's he doing here if he doesn't to play the game in the first place ?
There is a thread at the top of this forum entitled SGT Rules: Read This First.

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This is the appropriate forum to discuss any religious belief, as well as faith, spirituality, deity, apologetics, theology, and so on. As most debates about the validity of evolution have some religious basis, this is also the forum for discussion of creationism and intelligent design. If you create a thread unrelated to these subjects, it will be moved to the appropriate forum.
I am discussing religious beliefs. This is not the happy clappy christianity forum to discuss how jesus bummed you in a dream last night.

Other people believe different things to you. Other people have different moral standards about what is offensive and what is not offensive.

What's more this is a religion sub forum on a poker forum. What the hell do you expect?

In conclusion:

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09-26-2012 , 11:45 PM
Now that means eff off.
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09-26-2012 , 11:51 PM
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Now that means eff off.
Don't worry I've got deaders number he's just an atheist who wants to goad and wind up genuine posters. He seems to display none of the tolerance he complains that religious people lack.
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09-26-2012 , 11:56 PM
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Not here.



Maybe you should try a bit harder not to be so easily offended.



The worst thing would be that my freedom to express myself would be encroached upon.
It's not "easy" offence you would be banned for posting that on many UK forums and it looks a bit rude whatever the American interpretation. Maybe you shouldn't insist on your right to offend others quite so loudly. That's the type of thing Pastor Terry Jones does.
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09-26-2012 , 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Cwocwoc
Even if it's profane and it's posted on the Religion board ? The ToC is the minimum standard. You are adopting the "Pastor Terry Jones defence" but then you seem to show little genuine interest in religion, ethics or morality.
Not all religions are as sexual repressed as he abrahamic ones. Some even worship nude and stuff. How would you react to someone in Jainism posting a picture of a nude monk. Let me guess. You would wan to restrict their perverse religion on this religious board.

Instead of enforcing your messed up moral code on everyone, just block his avatar if you dont like it.

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09-26-2012 , 11:58 PM
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It's not "easy" offence you would be banned for posting that on many UK forums and it looks a bit rude whatever the American interpretation.
Phew. Glad this isn't a UK forum then.

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Maybe you shouldn't insist on your right to offend others quite so loudly. That's the type of thing Pastor Terry Jones does.
Perhaps you should work on not having such delicate sensibilities.
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09-27-2012 , 12:01 AM
Perhaps you should read your bible cwoc -

1 Thessalonians 5:22 says "Avoid every kind of evil".

I would assume this includes evil images? If you find a certain forum contains evil then you should, you know, avoid it.
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09-27-2012 , 12:04 AM
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Perhaps you should read your bible cwoc -

1 Thessalonians 5:22 says "Avoid every kind of evil".

I would assume this includes evil images? If you find a certain forum contains evil then you should, you know, avoid it.
You are Geert Wilders' Christophobic brother and I claim my £5.
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09-27-2012 , 12:04 AM
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Don't worry I've got deaders number he's just an atheist who wants to goad and wind up genuine posters. He seems to display none of the tolerance he complains that religious people lack.
I have no intention of goading or winding up genuine posters (what is a "genuine poster" though, someone who believes the same thing as you?)

I have no compunctions about calling out bull**** though, and expecting everyone else to conform to your standards of what constitutes an acceptable image on an internet forum is bull****.

Keep on dragging it back to a personal level though, its the standard line for most christians who are bad at debating.
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09-27-2012 , 12:12 AM
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Not all religions are as sexual repressed as he abrahamic ones. Some even worship nude and stuff. How would you react to someone in Jainism posting a picture of a nude monk. Let me guess. You would wan to restrict their perverse religion on this religious board.

Instead of enforcing your messed up moral code on everyone, just block his avatar if you dont like it.
I don't think they wander about all over the place like that. Their religion sounds reasonable but it might not appeal to the atheists on here as one of the monastic vows is chastity.

I think you are confused batair.
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09-27-2012 , 12:16 AM
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While that is a reasonable response the bolded is completely untrue. The old testament is full of cases where god killed vast numbers of people because they worshipped other gods or didnt obey the letter of his law. Obey me or die is pretty much the definition of forcing your beliefs on someone is it not? I can pull out verses if required.

Then in the new testament there are multiple instructions to go into the world preaching, again is that not forcing your beliefs on someone?

You seem to be uncomfortable with the (you must admit) widespread obnoxious behaviour of people from the same belief system as you and seem to be uncomfortable with the notion of preaching. Are you sure you need to remain a christian?
Regarding the OT I would say it was God passing judgement on people.

Ultimately there is judgement.
If you don't believe in Christianity fair enough, but IMO the real issue is whether or not Christianity is true.

Regarding NT preaching:

This is far from forcing ones morals onto another person.
The death and resurrection of Jesus is supposed to be "good news"
If you don't like it or believe it you are free to reject it.
It is not Christian's job to force it down your throat.
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09-27-2012 , 12:18 AM
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I have no intention of goading or winding up genuine posters (what is a "genuine poster" though.
On a religion board it's anyone who is vaguely religious or interested in religion. It is not someone who hates religious people and wants to deride them at every opportunity.
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09-27-2012 , 12:21 AM
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I don't think they wander about all over the place like that. Their religion sounds reasonable but it might not appeal to the atheists on here as one of the monastic vows is chastity.

I think you are confused batair.
No straight answer is what i excepted. Ok what if i posted a picture of one of their nude monks or had it as my avatar?


Fwiw some religions practice nudity and sexual activity as a part of worship.

Oh yeah. Some atheists practice chastity. Think we had one that posted here a while back who considered himslef as asexual. Forgot who it was they might still post.

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09-27-2012 , 12:30 AM
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No straight answer is what i excepted.

Fwiw some religions practice nudity and sexual activity as a part of worship.

Oh yeah. Some atheists practice chastity. Think we had one that posted here a while back who considered himslef as asexual. Forgot who it was they might still post.
The monks you mentioned take a vow of chastity. I'm not sure we should allow sexy religions in here. It's not a porn forum !
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09-27-2012 , 12:31 AM
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The monks you mentioned take a vow of chastity. I'm not sure we should allow sexy religions in here. It's not a porn forum !
Anyone else think Cwocwoc just outed himself as a troll?
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09-27-2012 , 12:34 AM
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Regarding the OT I would say it was God passing judgement on people.

Ultimately there is judgement.
If you don't believe in Christianity fair enough, but IMO the real issue is whether or not Christianity is true.

Regarding NT preaching:

This is far from forcing ones morals onto another person.
The death and resurrection of Jesus is supposed to be "good news"
If you don't like it or believe it you are free to reject it.
It is not Christian's job to force it down your throat.
What were they being judged for? Following him? Again I ask, how is this not forcing beliefs on someone if the option is believe it or be judged then killed?

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On a religion board it's anyone who is vaguely religious or interested in religion. It is not someone who hates religious people and wants to deride them at every opportunity.
Apparently you are just a troll because you repeatedly show an unwillingness or inability to read. Read the quote from the rules thread, this forum is for discussing religion not a forum for the vaguely religious.

Pointing out flaws in your beliefs and questioning behaviour that is hypocritical is not deriding you.
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09-27-2012 , 12:36 AM
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The monks you mentioned take a vow of chastity. I'm not sure we should allow sexy religions in here. It's not a porn forum !
I changed my post up a little, but meh...
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09-27-2012 , 12:36 AM
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Anyone else think Cwocwoc just outed himself as a troll?

It's reasonable not to want to see nude sexual rituals featuring heavily on this board or preferably at all.
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