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06-18-2010 , 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SecondChance
Yep, close enough for a guess, but U Penn is definitely a top 10 school fwiw

See, I knew you could do it.
so, i your net worth 6,7, or 8 figures?
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06-18-2010 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunth0807
Your opinion is based on nothing.
Oh ****, Gunth has a point. Somebody just got served!
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06-18-2010 , 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by dknightx
there are only 2 "regular" theist posters on this board that i think may have a higher IQ than you. but what exactly does that prove? smart theists dont tend to post on RGT for many reasons.
It proves that I am smarter than any regular theist on this forum, which, if you read the thread, is widely debated by the majority of regular posters on this forum (in fact, I'm considered to be in the bottom 20% (generous estimate) of posters on this forum).

Given this information, I'm clueless as to why no one wants to bet against me?
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06-18-2010 , 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by SecondChance
Well yeah, I won't be angle shooting as if this goes down (which it obviously won't since people are already trying to back out of it), it would be a certifiable test administrated by the unbiased escrow, and not some made up IQ test
Well, so long as it involves "the right" theist(s), I'm willing to contribute a small amount. I only have $200 to spare now, but depending on when and how this goes down I may have more. (Unfortunately, I won't be able to put in anything like $3,000 alone.)
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06-18-2010 , 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SecondChance
It proves that I am smarter than any regular theist on this forum, which, if you read the thread, is widely debated by the majority of regular posters on this forum (in fact, I'm considered to be in the bottom 20% (generous estimate) of posters on this forum).

Given this information, I'm clueless as to why no one wants to bet against me?
I see you have the if somebody says it, it must be true mindset going pretty good. GL with that.
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06-18-2010 , 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunth0807
But i am the idiot. You do know it was 1 short paragraph with 4 questions right? You answered 1 question. But for some reason you believe you answered them all.

Welcome to RGT.
Actually, I answered them all except "do you consider that smart thinking?" which can be assumed from what I posted.

Your first question, "You just accept what people tell you without checking things out yourself?" was answered right below, when I replied with that's what religious people do, not what I do

Your idiot question was also answered, and reasoning was given as well

Now answer my question?
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06-18-2010 , 07:53 PM
Poker player is the only legit guess for occupation.

As for schools (assuming OP is from the US):
Stanford
Columbia
Cornell
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06-18-2010 , 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunth0807
I see you have the if somebody says it, it must be true mindset going pretty good. GL with that.
Nope, I have the "at least 5 people on this forum have openly said it, and others most likely think it, and others most likely are going to say it since this thread has only been alive for 5 hours" coupled with the "no one has actually even acknowledged myself as halfway intelligent other than 1-2 people max" mindset going
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06-18-2010 , 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SecondChance
Actually, I answered them all except "do you consider that smart thinking?" which can be assumed from what I posted.

Your first question, "You just accept what people tell you without checking things out yourself?" was answered right below, when I replied with that's what religious people do, not what I do

Your idiot question was also answered, and reasoning was given as well

Now answer my question?

LOL are you serious?

Fine i will answer your questions also. Ready?.....
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06-18-2010 , 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SecondChance
I mean, clearly the person who is most happy is the most successful, because that's what life is all about; however, that would be a stupid bet. What would you define successful as?
Happiness along with having a good family and good friends would be above net worth+money and what collage someone went to. If i thought about it more i im sure i could come up with some others like maybe people who make the world a better place or some stupid **** like that.
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06-18-2010 , 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Our House
Poker player is the only legit guess for occupation.

As for schools (assuming OP is from the US):
Stanford
Columbia
Cornell
I'm not sure why you're listing top 10 schools (except for Cornell), when I specifically said I did not go to a top 10 school
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06-18-2010 , 07:54 PM
Also OP, regardless of how smart/dumb you are, you've been an incredible ******* ITT. When it comes to getting through life, that counts against you quite a bit.
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06-18-2010 , 07:54 PM
Spoiler:
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06-18-2010 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunth0807
LOL are you serious?

Fine i will answer your questions also. Ready?.....
So you are still avoiding my question about heaven, even tho I have answered all of yours? Which question would you like clarification on?
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06-18-2010 , 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by batair
Happiness along with having a good family and good friends would be above net worth+money and what collage someone went to. If i thought about it more i im sure i could come up with some others like maybe people who make the world a better place or some stupid **** like that.
Having good family and friends contributes to happiness...happiness is inclusive of all you've mentioned. But, that's impossible to prop bet on, so I did the next closest thing.
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06-18-2010 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SecondChance
I'm not sure why you're listing top 10 schools (except for Cornell), when I specifically said I did not go to a top 10 school
What are you using as a list of top 10 schools? So far, you considered 3 out of 4 schools that dknight and I named as top 10 and that doesn't leave much room for too many others.

EDIT: are you only using US schools? (I'm doing worldwide)
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06-18-2010 , 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SecondChance
So you are still avoiding my question about heaven, even tho I have answered all of yours? Which question would you like clarification on?
Not only did you avoid my questions, you lied about answering them. So no, i will not answer any of your questions until you answer all 4 questions.

I think you should make it easy on yourself and number the questions before you answer them like this:

1.
2.
3.
4.

I know they were very diffcult questions, but since you post that you are smarter then most posters, i will consider that proof that you are capable of doing this.
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06-18-2010 , 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SecondChance
So, let me get this straight..you think I am ******ed (as was said in previous posts), yet you want me to take an IQ test bet vs not only one but also 2 people of your choosing AND you don't want to give me odds? Are you trying to back out or something, since you obviously thought I wasn't going to take your prop bet? Give me the names of 2 people, and I'll *consider* doing it with no odds.
Go back and read my initial bet. It has always stated two people...You trying to turn that into me backing out is laughable.

If Aaron W. and RLK were willing to be involved its a go. If they aren't I have a few others i'd consider, but those are the two I was thinking about.
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06-18-2010 , 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunth0807
Not only did you avoid my questions, you lied about answering them. So no, i will not answer any of your questions until you answer all 4 questions.

I think you should make it easy on yourself and number the questions before you answer them like this:

1.
2.
3.
4.

Wow, you are truly ******ed

Here

No atheist has taught me anything on this forum. You just accept what people tell you without checking things out yourself? Do you consider that smart thinking? Most of the time i feel like i am talking to a complete idiot, do you see me constantly calling people idiots or dumb? Why is that?

1)You just accept what people tell you without checking things out yourself? No, that's what religious people do...just assume things that they've been told are actually true without thinking for themselves. I, however, have done plenty of research on this matter. In fact, the more research I do, the more it's painfully obvious that religion is absurd. There is no proof of god whatsoever, it's called variance.

2) Do you consider that smart thinking? Obviously? Thinking for yourself and coming to your own conclusions is smart thinking..shouldn't that be obvious?

3) Most of the time i feel like i am talking to a complete idiot, do you see me constantly calling people idiots or dumb? No, since you are dumb, why would you call people who are clearly much smarter than you dumb, unless you're dumber than I thought?

4) Why is that? Should be self explanatory, but because if you actually DID call someone dumb/an idiot, it would make you look even dumber than you are now

Now, answer my question about heaven, and number it per question.

1) Do flies go to heaven?
2) Dogs?
3) Cats?
4) Apes?
5) At what period of time did humans evolve enough so that they stopped just dying and started going to heaven?
6) Does life on other planets that is slightly less complex than humans go to heaven?
7) If there is life more complex than humans on other planets, does it go to heaven?

Follow up question:

8) Why do you want there to be a god?
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06-18-2010 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Weatherhead03
Go back and read my initial bet. It has always stated two people...You trying to turn that into me backing out is laughable.

If Aaron W. and RLK were willing to be involved its a go. If they aren't I have a few others i'd consider, but those are the two I was thinking about.
Ok, give me 1.3:1 odds then and I'll do it. You said I'm ******ed, yet you won't do the bet for 1.3 odds, when you hand pick the smartest 2 theists, AND only one of them has to beat me? Do you realize what a hypocrite this makes you look like?
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06-18-2010 , 08:04 PM
Ive spent the last hour or so reading a few threads in RGT for the first time - and i have a question. Why are the atheists bothering to argue with these imbeciles?
At first i thought this Gunth guy was taking the mickey out of everyone. Then i realized he was serious. Scary - so far i've read that he wouldn't want to kill someone that was going to kill a classroom full of kids , his crackpot ideas on the Jews and the Nazi and that he hasnt gone missionary yet as he is struggling with some personal issues. No **** Sherlock! He starts threads asking for opinions and then when select people answer he asks them not to post in "his" threads or claims to only want to hear scripture.
My advise to the atheist is to stop wasting your time with these deluded people - my advice to Gunth is not to become a missionary in some 3rd world country (these peoples lives are hard enough without living with your crap) and instead stop wasting your time on internet forums - go get some serious pysch help and live your life.
Thats all - have a nice day!
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06-18-2010 , 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 5cent
Ive spent the last hour or so reading a few threads in RGT for the first time - and i have a question. Why are the atheists bothering to argue with these imbeciles?
At first i thought this Gunth guy was taking the mickey out of everyone. Then i realized he was serious. Scary - so far i've read that he wouldn't want to kill someone that was going to kill a classroom full of kids , his crackpot ideas on the Jews and the Nazi and that he hasnt gone missionary yet as he is struggling with some personal issues. No **** Sherlock! He starts threads asking for opinions and then when select people answer he asks them not to post in "his" threads or claims to only want to hear scripture.
My advise to the atheist is to stop wasting your time with these deluded people - my advice to Gunth is not to become a missionary in some 3rd world country (these peoples lives are hard enough without living with your crap) and instead stop wasting your time on internet forums - go get some serious pysch help and live your life.
Thats all - have a nice day!
I'll answer for myself. I know that arguing with stupid people is a waste of time (and since theists are stupid, this is clearly a waste of time). However, as the saying goes, time enjoyed wasting is not wasted time...meaning, that arguing with stupid people, although not accomplishing anything, is fun in low doses here and there, and definitely helps you feel better about yourself, because you realize how lucky you are to not be born with inferior genetics that the vast vast majority of religious people have.
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06-18-2010 , 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by SecondChance
Having good family and friends contributes to happiness...happiness is inclusive of all you've mentioned. But, that's impossible to prop bet on, so I did the next closest thing.
Money contributes to happiness.....happiness is inclusive of money and all you mentioned.....



Moneys not the next closest thing to happiness and not a vary good measure of success, at least not for everyone.
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06-18-2010 , 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SecondChance
Ok, give me 1.3:1 odds then and I'll do it. You said I'm ******ed, yet you won't do the bet for 1.3 odds, when you hand pick the smartest 2 theists, AND only one of them has to beat me? Do you realize what a hypocrite this makes you look like?
This is my last post for a few hours, I have to run out but ill be back later.

You are calling me a hypocrite?? You are asking me for odds??? All this after you said that there are no smart theists and that if you believe in God you are dumb.

Why would I give you odds?? It sounds like you think this is a slam dunk. If you are so smart and theists are so dumb it should be like taking candy from a baby.
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06-18-2010 , 08:10 PM
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Wow, you are truly ******ed

Here

No atheist has taught me anything on this forum. You just accept what people tell you without checking things out yourself? Do you consider that smart thinking? Most of the time i feel like i am talking to a complete idiot, do you see me constantly calling people idiots or dumb? Why is that?

1)You just accept what people tell you without checking things out yourself? No, that's what religious people do...just assume things that they've been told are actually true without thinking for themselves. I, however, have done plenty of research on this matter. In fact, the more research I do, the more it's painfully obvious that religion is absurd. There is no proof of god whatsoever, it's called variance.
So you don't accept what people tell you without checking things out yourself if they are religious, but if they are not religious, you take their word for it. Gotcha. I am very interested in hearing what kind of research you have actually done. 99.99% chance it was barely any.

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2) Do you consider that smart thinking? Obviously? Thinking for yourself and coming to your own conclusions is smart thinking..shouldn't that be obvious?
This is a yes or no question. Which you didn't answer before you claimed you answered all 4 questions. You do realize that i can post a few posts of you taking someones word for it as proof right?
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3) Most of the time i feel like i am talking to a complete idiot, do you see me constantly calling people idiots or dumb? No, since you are dumb, why would you call people who are clearly much smarter than you dumb, unless you're dumber than I thought?
This is your opinion and it is not based on anything accept that you don't believe in religion. You must have proof religion is false. Can i see that proof?

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4) Why is that? Should be self explanatory, but because if you actually DID call someone dumb/an idiot, it would make you look even dumber than you are now
Your line of thought is beyond anything i have ever seen unless they are under the age of 6.
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