To this my first impulse was "both 1 and 2 AND alot more stuff". Then I realised 2 is best charachterised as blasphemy, and the less "vain" the blasphemy is, the more serious the sin would be by my intuition.

I would assume it means just that you're not supposed to use it in a trivial manner. So "god dammit" would qualify, but also "OMG!", "jesus christ!", and "god please make it so that I won't overcook this porkchops". So yes, an authority-respect-prestige thing. Not sure about completely neutral and dry use in describing facts ("85% of americans believe in god" etc)

Egoistic? Well, isn't he demanding praise and worship right before and admitting he's jealous right afterwards, promising to eternally torment everyone that don't do as he says? Being a prick is well in the charachter of the biblical god IMO.

EDIT: after actually checking it out, it looks more like this:

So this would definitely include 2, but you could make an argument that it doesn't include 1, like you said in the OP. Just it doesn't follow at all from the description of the commandmet that you used lol.

its called covering all bases. no reason to risk it imo

and no i like the number 15

No that was like a brain fart, and now he has eternal gas.........

So who told you that it was a unforgiveable sin?

Just so you know thats a lie.

Blasphemy of the holy spirit is not what you think it is, not what someone has taught you.

You think that your parents have the power to make you believe also? I thought you had freedom of choice and freewill? God is not different, unless you want him to control people and make them do certain things. I highly doubt that anyone would like to be forced and controlled into doing things.

As far as I know freewill choice is a loving thing to allow people to have even if you know that some will choose not to love you back or believe in you.

Ryan, I think that you honestly have some wrong idea about God, and thats okay with me, if I had the ideas that you have then I would probably look at things the same way, we all come from different backgrounds and learn things differently.

If you ever actually let your gaurd down long enough to let someone teach you the truth about God and not lies then you would probably change your mind. But that will not happen easily, although I have no clue of your true heart, it may be completely different than what you express.

God knows it thats for sure and if there is any inkling of wanting to learn the truth and you have not hardended your heart completely then anything is possible.

If god wants to come down here and talk to me and argue why he thinks he deserves my respect I will listen for a while.

And if blasphemy against holy spirit isn't unforgivable please tell me what is so I can do it asap. And I got that from the bible btw

And no, I don't believe there is such a thing as "free-will," I think it's somewhat religious propaganda and somewhat "I want it so I have it."

1 and 2, but much more 1 than 2

Please show me where in the bible, If thats in there and that is what it means then I need to know where it is. Please help.

So you do not believe there is freewill? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm? Are you being controlled by someone or something to hop on the internet and post on 2plus2?

Believe me you do not want to do what true blasphemy of the holy spirit is, I promise you.

Since you do not believe in freedom of will, please listen to me, do exactly as I say, go to Full Tilt and transfer 100.00 player to player to the account of DoNotGamble please, need I remind you? You have no choice in the matter, get up and do it NOW!

Thank you very much.

It's a good thing one of the ten Commandments was wasted on this instead of, oh, "don't enslave others."

your an idiot

+1

I cuss like a sailor, unless I am in front of a client or someone I feel it might offend. But I never say "god" as a cuss word. Although I do not actually think that is what it is referring to, but I still won't do it.

Having a gun at your head with bullets that cause eternal non existence for non acceptance isn't much of a free will choice. Its more of a threat.

Pletho, nobody has ever read your long scripture quoting posts. FYI

The reality is eternal life or not, there is no gun, but there is a choice to live or not live forever, no one has a gun. Thats the problem people think that this is a joke and not real, if there was another way to have made eternal life available upon free will it would have been mde, but you have to understand that there are many other variable involved in this whole thing, of which I have not got near the time to even try to explain it all.

Nice try though

So you think.........and if you do not thats your loss not mine......no wonder you do not understand.

Most unbelievers cant read them, the light hurts the light of the word hurts their eyes.

dude, we all know your an atheist troll. just shut up

Wheres my money? You have no freewill, I have the control so send it NOW!

exactly my point... give it up dude your not fooling anyone

Well you are proving your belief wrong, you said you did not believe in free will, but I see you have some control at least over your poker bank account.

You honestly are the one who makes no sense, "I do not believe in freewill" what a stupid statement to make, anyone with a right mind cannot take you seriously, as if they did anyway, especially after that statement.

If the atheist on this forum held a mock trial and were to vote for the atheist that gave them the worst name, they would come up unanamously with Ryanb9.

I don't have time for a whole long post with the Hebrew translations and all that, but I believe the point of the commandment is God saying "I AM, do not worship me believing I am nothing." ( it says "bear emptiness" really)

fyp

lol good level. your analogy fails to account for the fact that its YOUR finger on the trigger, not someone elses.

My finger would only be on the trigger if belief and accepting Jesus as my lord was my choice, its not. And really if the biblical God has foreknowledge and he set up the whole ballgame its not my finger anyway. Im just a pawn in his game.

Originally Posted by Pletho
Well you are proving your belief wrong, you said you did not believe in free will, but I see you have some control at least over your poker bank account.

You honestly are the one who makes no sense, "I do not believe in freewill" what a stupid statement to make, anyone with a right mind cannot take you seriously, as if they did anyway, especially after that statement.

If the atheist on this forum held a mock trial and were to vote for the atheist that gave them the worst name, they would come up unanamously with Ryanb9.