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Satan. Created by God perfect and good or evil? Satan. Created by God perfect and good or evil?

08-21-2010 , 05:31 PM
Wow, way to miss the point with the first part there. Is this better:

I know that you don't want others to be fundamentalists but I don't know why. Is that strange too?

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Originally Posted by Greatest I am
Eh, because I think that is B S.
Man gave them authority.
Your God gave man dominion and when we exercised it, He genocided our ass.
That is immoral.
So that means you do agree that an authority can do things that those under its power should not?

God gave us free will, but He still told us we should do good with it. When we get punished for acting immorally, that doesn't make God immoral. That's a pretty stupid thought.
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08-21-2010 , 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ganstaman
Wow, way to miss the point with the first part there. Is this better:

I know that you don't want others to be fundamentalists but I don't know why. Is that strange too?
What is strange is you looking up those links and not recognizing why we should both be against fundamentals.



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So that means you do agree that an authority can do things that those under its power should not?
Not to break the law unless justified.

No. We are all able and indeed in some cases compelled to take authority.
Police are given authority with rules to follow just like any other citizen.

No one is given authority to use genocide at any time.

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God gave us free will, but He still told us we should do good with it. When we get punished for acting immorally, that doesn't make God immoral. That's a pretty stupid thought.
If your God is so quick to break His word to man of giving us dominion then He is an immoral SOB.

He is said to be immortal yet sure is in a hurRgeardsry.

You know we are about done here.

I have just about had it with your B S stupidity. I hope it is fake or I pity you.

Regards
DL
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08-21-2010 , 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ganstaman
God gave us free will, but He still told us we should do good with it. When we get punished for acting immorally, that doesn't make God immoral. That's a pretty stupid thought.
For me to do as the biblical God asks i would have to act immorally in some circumstances. Well at least according to my morals.
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08-21-2010 , 08:11 PM
Was that last post (of Greatest I am, who's odd quoting style makes it too hard to quote back, especially when I'm running another program in the background that won't let me copy/paste stuff) serious? I was replying to your post and copied the style of your sentence to prove that it didn't make sense. Instead of responding to that, you go off about something else. Let's try again, but slower.

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Originally Posted by Greatest I am
Strange how you can definitively know His desires without knowing why.
See, you say that it's strange to be able to know God's desires without knowing why. As an analogy, I mentioned that I knew some of your desires without knowing why and asked if that was strange too. Does this make sense now? Can I bring the analogy back out, or will you still not see where I am going with this?

Next, you mention that authority has rules that it follows too. But you ignore that these are not the same rules as the subjects of that authority follow. So since you didn't comment on the actual issue and it's clearly true, I'll assume that you agree with it. Therefore, how is it wrong for God to have different rules to follow than His people when you are ok for governments to have different rules to follow than its people?

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Originally Posted by Greatest I am
If your God is so quick to break His word to man of giving us dominion then He is an immoral SOB.

He is said to be immortal yet sure is in a hurRgeardsry.
God did not break His word. You can't just claim it and expect for it to come true. We've been over this in this very thread multiple times. I've had to walk you through the entire process because you refused to actually post your ideas instead of insults. And in the last post on the subject, I showed you how there's a difference between your will (what you choose) and your free will (how you choose it). Your response was simply an attempt to try to prove free will, which is irrelevant to the discussion at hand even if the proof would have been valid.

So again, you really ignored the issue, leading me to have to believe you no longer have any disagreements with it? Or at the least, you should by now understand that there is a logical and acceptable viewpoint wherein God does not take away one's free will by killing him. And therefore you don't have to assume that God is going back on His word of giving us free will unless you're just out to make God look evil because of your not-so-secret agenda.

Did you pass out on your keyboard at the end there? I don't even know how that's relevant.
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08-22-2010 , 11:16 AM
I do not need to make the mythical bible God look evil.
Just read the O T.
If you believe that killing someone does not takes away their will or free will and desire to live then we will not likely come to an agreement on anything and discussions are of no value.

Regards
DL
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08-22-2010 , 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Greatest I am
If you believe that killing someone does not takes away their will or free will and desire to live then we will not likely come to an agreement on anything and discussions are of no value.
You need to be more careful with your words. You are now changing the discussion to say things I would never have agreed with. I agree fully that killing someone takes away their will/desire to live. As I've made abundantly clear from the start, this is not the same as free will.

I mean seriously, did you think you could lump 'will' and 'free will' together in there, knowing that I've been saying they were different, hoping I wouldn't notice and end up agreeing somehow?

If you are going to lie in your posts about my position, at least try not to be so obvious in the future. Maybe try to slip in something that hasn't been the center of our debate instead. That you'd have to stoop to this level to try to 'win' says a lot about your confidence in your position.
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08-22-2010 , 03:22 PM
See ya.

Regards
DL
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08-22-2010 , 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Butcho22
inb4 lock
I lol'd.

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