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12-01-2009 , 02:53 AM
one of my friends is starting up a saturday something church , according to him one day does matter to god and church should be on a saturday.
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12-01-2009 , 02:57 AM
Yes, the Sabbath is Saturday. Christians traditionally go to church on Sunday stemming back to the tradition of Easter (being the most important day on the Christian calendar).
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12-01-2009 , 06:32 AM
Your friend's god is kinda nitty. Especially considering that it did not leave any reliable almanacs around.

I suggest smacking kids for not cleaning their rooms, preferably one day before the (not?) given deadline.
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12-01-2009 , 09:16 AM
But a day to god could be billions of years, as in the creation of the world in 6 days.

Based purely on statistics, the entirety of human history has probably all taken place on a weekday, and god doesn't expect anyone to go to church at all during this time.

But in a few billion years, when we do reach the god-Sabbath-day, it will be all church, all the time.

P.S. Does the bible actually advise everyone to go to church on the sabbath, and listen to some fruitcake tell lies and read non-Leviticus verses of the bible, or is that all just done for the sake of tradition? It isn't part of any commandment I know.
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12-01-2009 , 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Turn Prophet
Yes, the Sabbath is Saturday. Christians traditionally go to church on Sunday stemming back to the tradition of Easter (being the most important day on the Christian calendar).
Technically, Shabbat is not Saturday but rather Friday sunset to Saturday sunset. "Church", Sunday congregations, Easter, Christmas are "compromises" with "other religions" ( and some would argue with paganism ) and really don't have much to do with Yeshua HaMashiach.
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12-01-2009 , 01:20 PM
The sabbath is on saturday--True, or as was said Friday sunset/Saturday sunset

one of my friends is starting up a saturday something church--I remember when...that was part of my past journey too; not starting one, attending one.

according to him one day does matter to god--*perhaps

and church should be on a saturday--Within a religious paradigm that specifies one specific day to gather weekly, yeah, it should be saturday. Many religionists just say Sunday is tradition and don't make any special claim for the specific day any more, which is fine. Those who claim Sunday as a Christian Sabbath or Lord's Day or that Jesus changed the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday are full of it.

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*Perhaps have your friend look closely at Hebrews chapter 4.
Hbr 4:1 Therefore, since a promise remains of entering His rest...
Hbr 4:3 For we who have believed do enter that rest...
Hbr 4:4 For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way...
Hbr 4:6 Since therefore it remains that some must enter [into rest]...
Hbr 4:7 again He designates a certain day, saying in David, Today, after such a long time, as it has been said: Today, if you will hear His voice, Do not harden your hearts.
Hbr 4:8 For if Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have spoken of another day.
Hbr 4:9 There remains therefore a rest for the people of God.

It's not too hard to see. At one time, God spoke of rest and the 7th day Sabbath day. Later, there remains a rest and He spoke of another day, designating a certain day to enter rest, Today.

Last edited by ajmargarine; 12-01-2009 at 01:38 PM.
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12-01-2009 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by AirshipOhio
But a day to god could be billions of years, as in the creation of the world in 6 days.
Well that depends on the rotation of God's planet.

If God is outside of time then a day is a meaningless period for God as he is not having to quantify a period for his rotation on his daily axis. Since God used the word 'day' in Genesis we can assume he meant Earth days not the Mercurian day or the Martian day.
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03-02-2010 , 03:22 PM
no idea
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03-02-2010 , 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ttwarrior1
one of my friends is starting up a saturday something church , according to him one day does matter to god and church should be on a saturday.
Church is your community, not some building that people go to on some arbitrary day.

Your friend appears to be missing the point.
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03-02-2010 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Jibninjas
Church is your community, not some building that people go to on some arbitrary day.
Maybe to you. But obviously to the overwhelming majority of people who use the word, it means exactly what you say it does not.
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03-02-2010 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by sockhead2
Maybe to you. But obviously to the overwhelming majority of people who use the word, it means exactly what you say it does not.
Because people do something does not mean that it is right. An enormous amount of people misuse all sorts of terms, that does not mean that we should just let it go.

I am using the word as originally intended.
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03-02-2010 , 04:30 PM
03-02-2010 , 05:41 PM
Christians are selfish, I mean they all ask for what they want/need and most of the prayers to god are on Sunday, his day off.
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03-02-2010 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by HowardGrind
Christians are selfish, I mean they all ask for what they want/need and most of the prayers to god are on Sunday, his day off.
Swing and a miss.... He struck him out !
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03-03-2010 , 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ttwarrior1
one of my friends is starting up a saturday something church , according to him one day does matter to god and church should be on a saturday.
The seventh-day adventists believe that since the Jews celebrated the Sabbath on Saturday, or from sundown to sundown rather, as another poster mentioned, we should still celebrate on Saturday.

But this is changed with Christ's resurrection on Sunday, and the coming of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost on a Sunday, when the Church was created. We moved the Lord's day to Sunday in reverence of these two events, each Sunday being a 'mini-Easter' (in fact we don't fast or abstain during Lenten Sundays)
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03-03-2010 , 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Turn Prophet
Yes, the Sabbath is Saturday. Christians traditionally go to church on Sunday stemming back to the tradition of Easter (being the most important day on the Christian calendar).
Mainly because they couldn't get any momentum going until they co-opted the pagan festival.
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03-03-2010 , 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by madnak
Mainly because they couldn't get any momentum going until they co-opted the pagan festival.
It does seem like all of the "cool" holidays are really of pagan origin. It is truly interesting how much of what we call "christian" today was really co-opted as a compromise with other traditions/religion.

What is more astounding to me is that no one talks about this inside the "christian circle" anyway.
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03-03-2010 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Jibninjas
It does seem like all of the "cool" holidays are really of pagan origin. It is truly interesting how much of what we call "christian" today was really co-opted as a compromise with other traditions/religion.

What is more astounding to me is that no one talks about this inside the "christian circle" anyway.
Well, I find it strange how even the atheists are talking about "Easter Sunday" as if it became an event when Jesus died. I think it's weird in general that they kept the name "Easter" in the first place, but often people just don't seem to wonder "where did that come from?"

Or, y'know, why are sex symbols like bunnies and eggs used to represent it instead of symbols relating to Christianity? Why do we gorge ourselves? What does the egg hunt have to do with anything?

We just all assume it has to do with Jesus somehow when the real answers are at our fingertips. I do wonder whether Easter was originally on Sunday.

(Edit - Of course the cool holidays are of pagan origin. The pagans did all the orgiastic rites, man. I think the early Jews, on the other hand, considered immoderation and music to be sins.)
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03-09-2010 , 06:59 PM
OP the Jewish Sabbath is as bigpooch described it, however, the Christian day of worship isn't the same as the Sabbath.

As per Acts 20:7 Christians came together on the first day of the week to break bread:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...:7&version=NIV

Also directions are given regarding the first day of the week here in 1 Corinthians 16:2:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...:2&version=NIV

Stephen says Mosaic laws and cutoms no longer necessary here in Acts 6:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...15&version=NIV

To clarify further see the Hebrew calendar "weeks" section:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_calendar#Day
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03-09-2010 , 06:59 PM
welcome back splendour!
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09-05-2011 , 02:15 AM
bump
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09-05-2011 , 02:44 AM
A church having service on Wednesday would be perfectly acceptable. Christ's church is His people. He is the high priest. No day of the week gets us any closer to God, nor any building.
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09-05-2011 , 03:08 AM
I can't figure out if your avatar is one of those obnoxious cameras at the corners of intersections to trap speeders or a little robot holding a gun.
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09-05-2011 , 03:10 AM
Haha yeah that's why I like it. It's some kind of security or traffic electronics.
Spoiler:
Or a transformer.
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09-05-2011 , 11:18 PM
Sunday is the correct day.

"Early Sunday observance is suggested in the New Testament {1} and in the writings of the early church fathers:

But every Lord's Day, gather yourselves together, and break bread, and give thanksgiving after having confessed your transgressions, that your sacrifice may be pure. {2}

We have come to the possession of a new hope, no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord's Day. {3}

But Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the first day on which God ... made the world. And Jesus Christ our Savior rose from the dead on that same day. {4}

References:

1.Acts 20:7; 1 Co 16:2; Rev 1:10.
2.Didache 14, ANF 7.381 (c. 90 AD).
3.Ignatius of Antioch, Epistle to the Magnesians 9, ANF 1.62 (c. 105 AD).
4.Justin Martyr, First Apology, ANF 1.186 (c. 160 AD)."

Quotes from the ReligionFacts site.
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