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Funny post .
The life of today is far better then the life prior without science .
Medical science is one example and many others .

But if u want to just point the bad stuff and disregarding the rest ….
I could start counting how many people
Died in the name of religion and their gods ……
But you would be long dead before I could count them all !

Ps: it was a nice straw man tho u did .
The point was many people do feel accomplished life through other means beside religion .
Clearly with your post u just proved my point u have no idea how beneficial science is compare to religion .
Glad science came to be instead of relying on human sacrifice for some religion , to have good weather to bring better harvest…..
And many other stupid **** in the name of god or religion …

Strangely has science resolve problems which religion never did , life expectancy been increasing tremendously.
How strange ….
Yes prayers was such a good remedy to illness o0.

Do you all atheists consider nuclear annihilation as "funny"?

What religion do you think is using human sacrifice? Answer:None. Do you know that human prisoners have been and are being unethically used in scientific experiments? North Korea is doing this now to test poison gas, experimental surgery and the effects of starvation on humans.

Life expectancy has not been increasing lately and has been dropping worldwide and in the USA over the last two years. This is mainly due to COVID. Where did it come from? Might be a science lab.

People are posting complaints about deaths that occurred 2,000 years ago that are mentioned in the Bible when our entire humanity is at risk now from non-religious causes.

GL

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05-14-2023 , 04:01 PM

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Pokerlogist

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Originally Posted by stremba70

First of all you are confusing science and technology. They are two separate things, although science does make the technology possible. Second, while you list all the devastating effects of technology, you fail to list the redeeming and beneficial effects. Apparently the irony that you are using technology to condemn it is lost on you, for example. The ability to communicate instantly with anyone anywhere in the world has certainly brought great benefit to many. Besides this, pretechnological societies were subsistence level societies where people routinely starved to death due to actual shortages in food production. Technology has allowed increased food production using less land. Pre-technology, life expectancy was also quite short; the natural life span of a human was around 30 years. Advances in food production and medicine have more than doubled that life expectancy. Technology has allowed for the eradication of many diseases that once killed many people. Technology has increased the productivity of people allowing for increased leisure time and better quality of life.

I could go on, but despite what it may seem, IÂ’m not trying to argue that technology is good. It is neither good nor bad. It is whatever we humans as a society decide to make of it. I donÂ’t like the whole good/bad distinction anyway. For example, yes Hiroshima was horrific, but honestly so was the firebombing of Dresden and Tokyo that occurred during the same war. The development of nuclear weapons was NOT the impetus for destroying cities and killing people, it was merely a tool. Humans have been killing each other and destroying their stuff long before nukes came along. The technology makes it easier and more effective, but it is the human impulse to kill and destroy that is to blame, not the technology. Advances in nuclear science also permitted the development of nuclear power, which may well turn out to be the best solution to climate change. It also allowed for advances in medicine, such as advanced imaging using radioactive isotopes, that would have been unavailable without the development of nuclear science and technology.

Again, science and technology are what we make of it; they are neither good nor evil in and of themselves. One could make a similar argument for religions as well. Here you focus on the beneficial but ignore things like the Crusades, the Thirty Years War, the Spanish Inquisition, the 9/11 attacks, and the mistreatment of homosexual people, all of which resulted directly from religion. Just like science, religion is what we make of it.

IMHO humanity needs both proper science and proper religion.
As Einstein said, "science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.

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05-15-2023 , 04:00 AM

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Montrealcorp

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Originally Posted by Pokerlogist

Worldwide Nuclear holocaust didn’t happens yet .
Noah did tho ?
Who’s better now ….
Dumb question but if god did it with water , what makes u think god wouldn’t be responsible to do it again with nuclear ?
Maybe it is his wishes , who knows .

Yes all religion eventually dies , because as science progress , they realize the prayers and others beliefs (some prior religion made sacrifices ) didn’t had any influence on reality .
So it dies .

Ah yes that great empirical data represented by the last 2 years means a lot but nvm the last 500 years with medical science lol…..
Are u for real ?

The world is at risk for many reasons and it isn’t religion that would stop a meteorite crashing on earth by prayers .
But Science could , and thx to nuclear weapon that could help for this instance , oops .

Ps: nice u don’t bring up all the religion nut case terrorist killing thousands of peoples in the name of god .

Get it through your head , many people reach true happiness and accomplishment without religion .
Doesnt matter u believe it or not , it happens regardless .

Last edited by Montrealcorp; 05-15-2023 at 04:08 AM.

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