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04-13-2020 , 08:46 PM
No doubt this Covid peak and the tornado deaths on Easter were part of the divine plan, under the orchestration of the invisible sky daddy. Let's hear how that works. Why did He want the non-gatherings on Easter and the storm dead in the South on the holiest of days? I just know there is a great answer to be integrated into the grand doctrine of the pre-medieval belief system. It might even be better than the one's that say Adolph Hitler was put in power by the loving almighty, and that rapist priests are not a reason to doubt the veracity of the good faith.
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04-14-2020 , 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by FellaGaga-52
Adolph Hitler was put in power by the loving almighty, and that rapist priests are not a reason to doubt the veracity of the good faith.
You're like a squirrel digging holes in the yard.

It's irritating, you wish it would stop, but can't stop laughing at it.
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04-14-2020 , 12:57 PM
I just discovered that there is a branch of Christianity that almost gets it right regarding Jesus:

“The Christological view held was that Jesus was born human and became divine later during his baptism and thus was adopted as the son of God.”
https://orthodoxwiki.org/Adoptionism

I would correct this to say that Jesus was a human and became divine later after the Resurrection, but a mysterious, hidden resurrection that early followers could only represent in the way that it is commonly understood.


Also known as Theosis:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theo...stian_theology)

Last edited by craig1120; 04-14-2020 at 01:10 PM.
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04-14-2020 , 01:45 PM
Another thing that needs mentioning: We do not fear what happens after bodily death. That is a projection. This took me a long time to clarify.

We can fear or be anxious about a possible life threatening event, but the nothingness that represents existence after bodily death, we do not fear. The resistance to Theosis only makes us believe we do.

We DO fear the chaotic unknown, which is the path toward Theosis. This fear gets projected and deflected into thinking about what happens after bodily death. It is a counterfeit fear. As we make progress toward Theosis, any fear that is associated with existence after bodily death dissipates.
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04-14-2020 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by craig1120
I just discovered that there is a branch of Christianity that almost gets it right regarding Jesus:

“The Christological view held was that Jesus was born human and became divine later during his baptism and thus was adopted as the son of God.”
https://orthodoxwiki.org/Adoptionism

I would correct this to say that Jesus was a human and became divine later after the Resurrection, but a mysterious, hidden resurrection that early followers could only represent in the way that it is commonly understood.


Also known as Theosis:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theo...stian_theology)
Sorry, I should clarify that baptism can be a metaphor for Resurrection. I was only making a distinction from an actual John The Baptist-type baptism.
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04-14-2020 , 05:39 PM
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Sorry, I should clarify that baptism can be a metaphor for Resurrection. I was only making a distinction from an actual John The Baptist-type baptism.
It's ok, the biblical Jesus never existed so who cares.

Of course, you invested a lot of time believing in a lie so it's almost impossible for you to wake up. Poor soul.


Here are some funny pictures to make this thread at least a little less boring and worthless.











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04-14-2020 , 06:04 PM
Use fear to orient and focus toward the status hierarchy. Do individual development within this context of climbing the status hierarchy. If you feel a sense of urgency, like you are falling behind, or are not living up to your potential fully, grab hold or at least stay within contact of that feeling.

Use resistance to reach down into the darkness and pull up fire. Mind your ethics.

Use the feeling of betrayal to see the truth of the hostility of the world toward our desire for eros.

Use acceptance, forgiveness, hope, and faith to look deeper.

Use dread and apathy as a call to conscious awareness. It is a sign that the enemy is getting nervous.

Use self sabotage as a call to maximize conscious awareness. The enemy is weakened and it’s time to seize control.

Use the maximization of self doubt combined with self loathing as a sign to sink and turn inward. It is the time to turn the betrayal from external to internal. A leap of faith is required here.
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04-14-2020 , 06:29 PM
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You are stuck in Plato’s Cave believing whatever is being projected in front of your eyes.
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04-14-2020 , 11:30 PM
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You are stuck in Plato’s Cave believing whatever is being projected in front of your eyes.
Yes, you are.
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04-15-2020 , 01:47 AM
I’m not the type of person to go all-in when the situation doesn’t call for it. But when it’s the right play, I don’t hesitate. I thought there might be others like that on this forum but perhaps not.
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04-15-2020 , 04:57 AM
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You are stuck in Plato’s Cave believing whatever is being projected in front of your eyes.
Says the guy who believes in invisible skydaddy, pretty ironic. Keep going, bro, I showed your "thoughts" to some friends and we point and laugh at the gibberish you post here.
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04-15-2020 , 04:58 PM
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Says the guy who believes in invisible skydaddy, pretty ironic. Keep going, bro, I showed your "thoughts" to some friends and we point and laugh at the gibberish you post here.
Do you really think that I am affected by the opinions of blind people regarding vision? You look to others for their approval because you still choose conformity over truth.
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04-15-2020 , 05:03 PM
To solidify the point about subjectivity and world hostility (betrayal) since it is crucial, I am pasting this from another discussion:


“Regarding order and chaos I think it desires balance (yin-yang). For example love without surprises is just routine.”

(Me)
You are trying to temporarily escape your consciousness in an attempt to make a detached, third person, objective, God-like assessment here. I see this often, and it is a deception. We cannot escape our consciousness and subjectivity.

If somebody bullies you on Monday and again on Wednesday and Friday, then you don’t say “Well, at least my life isn’t boring and routine.” You identify that person as a bully, realize that the pattern will repeat again in the future, and recognize that the situation needs to be dealt with.

It is in our human nature to avoid pain and seek comfort, but the world has an undeniable pattern of bullying, hostile behavior. We should recognize that the situation will reoccur until we make resolving the situation a priority. That means not allowing our view of the world to ease back into anything other than oppositional.
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04-16-2020 , 03:19 AM
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Do you really think that I am affected by the opinions of blind people regarding vision? You look to others for their approval because you still choose conformity over truth.
Why would I care? Just saying that we have a good laugh at the gibberish you are posting and that you absolutely should keep going, it's highly entertaining. Like a comedy show we don't have to pay for.
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04-16-2020 , 04:24 AM
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Why would I care? Just saying that we have a good laugh at the gibberish you are posting and that you absolutely should keep going, it's highly entertaining. Like a comedy show we don't have to pay for.
If this is true, and you are sitting around laughing with each other, and really find it "highly entertaining" then thats pretty pathetic, I know theres a lockdown on, but still.
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04-16-2020 , 06:07 AM
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If this is true, and you are sitting around laughing with each other, and really find it "highly entertaining" then thats pretty pathetic, I know theres a lockdown on, but still.
Guess you never have fun then.

Tell you what: You translate the strange gibberish from Craig to plain English and I will consider to stop calling it gibberish.
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04-16-2020 , 12:07 PM
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Guess you never have fun then.

Tell you what: You translate the strange gibberish from Craig to plain English and I will consider to stop calling it gibberish.
Most of it is in plain English. Only some of it is vague. The resistance you have within you tells you it’s “gibberish” so that you don’t actually contend with what I am saying. Notice how you are not providing specific examples so that I can clarify.
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04-16-2020 , 04:42 PM
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Most of it is in plain English.
Irrelevant. It's gibberish.

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Only some of it is vague.
99% is not "some of it" Stop lying. Lies make baby jesus cry.

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The resistance you have within you tells you it’s “gibberish” so that you don’t actually contend with what I am saying.
I'm irritated by the gibberish and your silly and childish attempts of "Nier Nier, you don't just don't understand".

Well, yes, I absolutely do not understand the gibberish you are posting.


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Notice how you are not providing specific examples so that I can clarify.
There is no need for clarification, you are just stringing words together and somehow there's jebus involved. You try to make yourself look and feel yourself special, like many godbotherers. You know, the "old wise man on the mountain"-routine.

But you sound like Deepak Chopra on crack. Thanks for the laughs again, keep going, we are having so much fun over here.
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04-16-2020 , 04:53 PM
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Irrelevant. It's gibberish.



99% is not "some of it" Stop lying. Lies make baby jesus cry.



I'm irritated by the gibberish and your silly and childish attempts of "Nier Nier, you don't just don't understand".

Well, yes, I absolutely do not understand the gibberish you are posting.




There is no need for clarification, you are just stringing words together and somehow there's jebus involved. You try to make yourself look and feel yourself special, like many godbotherers. You know, the "old wise man on the mountain"-routine.

But you sound like Deepak Chopra on crack. Thanks for the laughs again, keep going, we are having so much fun over here.
You expose yourself because you can’t comprehend the difference between the top-down approach that you are familiar with and the bottom-up approach that I describe, so you lump me in with the other top-down Christians because that is the only category that you have. To take me seriously means you would have to acknowledge that your categories and simplifications are inadequate. That’s the beginning of deconstruction. It is not an error to have to deconstruct. Rather the error is in the resistance to deconstruction, and in the sacrificing of truth for preservation.
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04-16-2020 , 05:34 PM
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That’s the beginning of deconstruction. It is not an error to have to deconstruct. Rather the error is in the resistance to deconstruction
I feel you man.

Everyday I ask Mrs. RoundGuy to "deconstruct" what she's wearing.

She doesn't get it either.
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04-16-2020 , 05:42 PM
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I feel you man.

Everyday I ask Mrs. RoundGuy to "deconstruct" what she's wearing.

She doesn't get it either.
Do the work that I am talking about and you’ll find that she will start “deconstructing” without you having to ask.
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04-16-2020 , 06:02 PM
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You expose yourself because you can’t comprehend the difference between the top-down approach that you are familiar with and the bottom-up approach that I describe, so you lump me in with the other top-down Christians because that is the only category that you have. To take me seriously means you would have to acknowledge that your categories and simplifications are inadequate.
Great, more arrogant gibberish...


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That’s the beginning of deconstruction. It is not an error to have to deconstruct. Rather the error is in the resistance to deconstruction, and in the sacrificing of truth for preservation.
"Oh I sound so smart and deep". Pathetic.
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04-17-2020 , 03:09 AM
I’m pasting from another discussion again for further clarification:


I think you’ve articulated well a perspective that is recognizable to me and I would guess many others. I think what we do as humans is that we have a default fluctuation of moods. So maybe something like 2% of the time we perceive the world as hostile, 90% of the time as indifferent, and 8% of the time as accommodating. I haven’t thought too deeply about the breakdown of the percentages.

When we are in an oppositional relationship with the world, unless we consciously and actively “hold a grudge” or hold a negative feeling, we will eventually and automatically ease back into a non-oppositional relationship. Further, it is stressful and chaotic to hold ourselves in opposition to the world.

I believe the reason why we hold ourselves in that oppositional position, even just for a few moments longer, is that we can intuit a deeper truth about it. The thing is that we can’t intuit it in the 98% of the time that we are at ease with the world. It is only in that 2% that we have the clarity.

As we familiarize ourselves with this intuitional insight about the “darkness” of the world, then we interact with meaning and connection differently. There is an amplification to it. It seems more “real” and more “true” than everything else including the world’s hostility. For instance, music might hit us with a deeper connection. I see this amplification of meaning and connection, from my current perspective, sort of like an invitation or calling.

The next stage is the nihilism stage, which occurs after at least some deeper connection with the amplified meaning. In the nihilism stage, the hostility of the world is quite clear. Yet, it is an overwhelming experience, so even though the truth of it is clear, we want to escape from it.

After this, all we mainly have are memories. The amplification and polarization will diminish and we will no longer get the same level of confirmation. It is choose our own adventure. Are we going to trust those past experiences and choose the intuitional truths or are we going to trust the truth of rationality that the world is indifferent?

We cannot chase the amplified meaning without first holding the uncomfortable truth of the world’s hostility. Like I mentioned before, it is like stacking. If we choose rationality, we get to exist more in ease but sacrifice the chance at amplified meaning. I believe we are all split in this way. It’s just a matter of how much we trust or suppress those memories. The world demands that we be pragmatic, but we choose whether or not we nest that pragmatism within idealism.

I now separate ‘the world’ from ‘reality’. For me, reality is the place that the invitation is calling us toward. The place of sustained amplified meaning. The idea then is to bring more reality into the world (first individually). Truth then is that which orients toward and corresponds with reality. This path is “irrational” in that you are trusting intuitional truths that you’ve experienced to lead you over rationality. This is only within the moral domain. Of course, rationality is essential to lead outside of this domain.

A common theme among professional athletes is that they hold onto grudges. For instance, getting snubbed in the draft. I believe they are tapping into what I am describing. When they hold that grudge, they are unknowingly choosing the intuitional path. Naturally, their desire to succeed will be amplified since their desire for and experience of meaning is also amplified.
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04-17-2020 , 03:14 AM
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I’m pasting from another discussion again for further clarification:


I think you’ve articulated well a perspective that is recognizable to me and I would guess many others. I think what we do as humans is that we have a default fluctuation of moods. So maybe something like 2% of the time we perceive the world as hostile, 90% of the time as indifferent, and 8% of the time as accommodating. I haven’t thought too deeply about the breakdown of the percentages.

When we are in an oppositional relationship with the world, unless we consciously and actively “hold a grudge” or hold a negative feeling, we will eventually and automatically ease back into a non-oppositional relationship. Further, it is stressful and chaotic to hold ourselves in opposition to the world.

I believe the reason why we hold ourselves in that oppositional position, even just for a few moments longer, is that we can intuit a deeper truth about it. The thing is that we can’t intuit it in the 98% of the time that we are at ease with the world. It is only in that 2% that we have the clarity.

As we familiarize ourselves with this intuitional insight about the “darkness” of the world, then we interact with meaning and connection differently. There is an amplification to it. It seems more “real” and more “true” than everything else including the world’s hostility. For instance, music might hit us with a deeper connection. I see this amplification of meaning and connection, from my current perspective, sort of like an invitation or calling.

The next stage is the nihilism stage, which occurs after at least some deeper connection with the amplified meaning. In the nihilism stage, the hostility of the world is quite clear. Yet, it is an overwhelming experience, so even though the truth of it is clear, we want to escape from it.

After this, all we mainly have are memories. The amplification and polarization will diminish and we will no longer get the same level of confirmation. It is choose our own adventure. Are we going to trust those past experiences and choose the intuitional truths or are we going to trust the truth of rationality that the world is indifferent?

We cannot chase the amplified meaning without first holding the uncomfortable truth of the world’s hostility. Like I mentioned before, it is like stacking. If we choose rationality, we get to exist more in ease but sacrifice the chance at amplified meaning. I believe we are all split in this way. It’s just a matter of how much we trust or suppress those memories. The world demands that we be pragmatic, but we choose whether or not we nest that pragmatism within idealism.

I now separate ‘the world’ from ‘reality’. For me, reality is the place that the invitation is calling us toward. The place of sustained amplified meaning. The idea then is to bring more reality into the world (first individually). Truth then is that which orients toward and corresponds with reality. This path is “irrational” in that you are trusting intuitional truths that you’ve experienced to lead you over rationality. This is only within the moral domain. Of course, rationality is essential to lead outside of this domain.

A common theme among professional athletes is that they hold onto grudges. For instance, getting snubbed in the draft. I believe they are tapping into what I am describing. When they hold that grudge, they are unknowingly choosing the intuitional path. Naturally, their desire to succeed will be amplified since their desire for and experience of meaning is also amplified.
clarification,lol.
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