Religious History in Schools - Religion, God, and Theology

Why are kids in school drilled on Greek/Roman mythology but God's Word or Jesus aren't even mentioned in public schools?

I believe Aztec gods are also discussed and tested.

Did Jesus not make a big enough impact in history?...

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05-20-2010 , 04:42 PM

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I think Dan Dennett is a big supporter of religious studies being taught in schools and I'm definitely in agreement.

Probably not in the way you're thinking of though.

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05-20-2010 , 04:45 PM

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I support teaching comparative religion in school.

To say that Christianity isn't discussed at all is absurd. If you study world history, it is covered.

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05-20-2010 , 04:58 PM

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yup, european history is basically a story of christianity...

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05-20-2010 , 05:31 PM

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Christianity is based on the Teachings of Jesus, and His name is never even mentioned in classes afaik.

The closest i have witnessed anything close to being discussed in schools was the Salem witch trials, or the Puritan beliefs.

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european history is basically a story of christianity...

not even close

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05-20-2010 , 05:36 PM

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Christianity is based on the Teachings of Jesus, and His name is never even mentioned in classes afaik.

Since you don't know much, this doesn't surprise me at all. He is mentioned. Would you be ok with having to learn the Quran?

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The closest i have witnessed anything close to being discussed in schools was the Salem witch trials, or the Puritan beliefs.

You must have not stayed awake in school.

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not even close

Open up a world history book.

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05-20-2010 , 05:39 PM

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its not a detailed explanation of christian theology, but european history and christian churches/religion are insanely tied together...

Martin Luther, Inquisition, Henry VIII etc

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05-20-2010 , 05:41 PM

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but european history and christian churches/religion are insanely tied together...

Not the way they teach it. I mean really, how to you teach Christianity without God or Jesus being mentioned.

Yet you are supposed to memorize all the names of the Greek gods.

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Since you don't know much, this doesn't surprise me at all. He is mentioned. Would you be ok with having to learn the Quran?

Melchy you find me a history book in the classrooms that mentions Jesus.

I am not going to deny they don't teach a little church history, but they don't do it in any kind of religious way. But when they teach ancient greek/roman mythology they go in to every last detail pretty much.

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05-20-2010 , 05:42 PM

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Well, the words of Jesus don't have much place in history class. The story of Christianity does, but many Christian people find it very insulting.

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05-20-2010 , 05:47 PM

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gunth, the point of mentioning religion in history classes is to teach the impact of religion on history, not to teach the details of any specific religion...

Story about religion in schools: The Bronze Bow was on the reading list for one of my elementary school classes, but my parents (active in school affairs) got it taken off the list after some of the teachers asked them to read it, knowing that i was from a jewish family...

from wiki

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The story ends with Jesus healing Leah from her demons, and Daniel, released of his vow, shows Jesus' love to the Roman soldier

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05-20-2010 , 05:50 PM

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gunth, the point of mentioning religion in history classes is to teach the impact of religion on history, not to teach the details of any specific religion...

Then why was i forced to take like 10 tests, know every greek/roman god memorized, all their supposed powers, make a board game as a project, and even *cough* carve a sphinx out of a bar a soap (looking back, i can't believe i agreed to do this). It is a set up.

I heard zeus and just about any other greek/roman god mentioned in class like 100 times, but never Jesus, not one time.

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05-20-2010 , 05:52 PM

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I was required to say one nation under god, over and over and over again.

What is your point?

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05-20-2010 , 05:52 PM

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I was required to say one nation under god, over and over and over again.

What is your point?

That is when we were one nation under God, not anymore you don't.

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05-20-2010 , 05:54 PM

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so what was the setup?

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[QUOTE=MelchyBeau;19046867]Since you don't know much, this doesn't surprise me at all. He is mentioned. Would you be ok with having to learn the Quran?

If i have to sit and listen to some mindless dolt say that we evolved on this planet from monkeys then talking about Jesus seems fair.

The quran, sure. It's pretty much the old testament with the ok for different murders penned in.

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05-20-2010 , 05:55 PM

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so what was the setup?

Melchy, sometimes it is best to just not post.

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05-20-2010 , 05:56 PM

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Melchy, sometimes it is best to just not post.

what was the setup?

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05-20-2010 , 05:56 PM

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Well, the words of Jesus don't have much place in history class. The story of Christianity does, but many Christian people find it very insulting.

Telling me i am a monkey's uncle is equally as insulting.

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05-20-2010 , 05:57 PM

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Telling me i am a monkey's uncle is equally as insulting.

Ape, not monkey. Telling me I'm of the same species as you and gunth is insulting as well.

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05-20-2010 , 06:02 PM

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Ape, not monkey. Telling me I'm of the same species as you and gunth is insulting as well.

Have you ever wondered why, if born and evolved on Mars, monkees would be the same strength we are ?

In fact we are proportionately weaker than every other species on this planet.

If we were evolved on Mars for some time, we would be just what we are now. If we moved here from Mars then again, we would be just what we are.

Why don't we discuss NASA findings in schools ?

I have some interesting pictures stored at NASA and JPL and gosh, it looks like someone was messing around on Mars at some point in time.

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05-20-2010 , 06:04 PM

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the lack of oxygen would certainly explain your thought process.

Again, we evolved from apes, not monkeys.

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05-20-2010 , 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MelchyBeau

the lack of oxygen would certainly explain your thought process.

Again, we evolved from a common ancestor of apes, not monkeys.

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05-20-2010 , 06:12 PM

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While it is true we didn't evolve from modern day apes, we most likely evolved from an ancient ape species.

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05-20-2010 , 06:14 PM

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While it is true we didn't evolve from modern day apes, we most likely evolved from an ancient ape species.

I could be wrong, but I don't think that they classify the species that we broke off from as Apes.

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05-20-2010 , 06:19 PM

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The Hominidae (anglicized hominids, also known as great apes[notes 1]) form a taxonomic family, including four extant genera: chimpanzees, gorillas, humans, and orangutans.[1]

From wikipedia, we are actually apes.

One of the possible common ancestors for us and the modern apes is Nakalipithecus nakayamai which is a prehistoric great ape.

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