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Originally Posted by d2_e4
I'm really not sure what you people are attempting to prove here. Aaron, I see you don't defend the YECs (not just in this thread but in general), and I guess, props for that.
It's a pretty sad state of affairs when you have to give "props" to someone for debating with a member of his or her own society who thinks that fairies are real.
It *is* a sad state of affairs when you feel bad that you have to deal in truth.
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You can cast all the aspersions on my intellect that you want. In fact, in a maths Olympiad, you would probably beat me, Aaron. But hey, I don't believe in fairies, so there is that.
I will restate a challenge I put up to you a while back. 10k each, escrowed, says that self-admitted religious people have a lower IQ then self-avowed atheists. Average of 100 people. We can pick 100 from tests at random, if this information is publically available. Watch it though, it has to be a fair sample.
A couple things to note:
1) Sample size is too small to be meaningful.
2) How are you going to declare what's "fair" in the sampling? Are we constraining geography and thus biasing the sample? Or are we going for an actual random sampling of humans?
3) The noise is unspecified. What would you consider a significant difference?
4) It's stupidly impractical. It's kind of the mindless chest-thumping that one might expect from someone who will prefer to hide behind their own bluster. "I bet you won't take me up on this wager that we won't actually be able to execute... Yeah... That's what I thought..."
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And before you start, IQ is what IQ test measure. Nothing more, nothing less. But they are a decent proxy for intelligence, in particular, *critical thinking*, bro.
Amusingly, IQ tests are not known for measuring "critical thinking" (bro). There are other tests that do that.
For example:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...71187116300384
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Community adults and college students (n = 244) completed a critical thinking assessment, an intelligence test, and an inventory of life events. Individuals with higher critical thinking scores and higher IQs reported fewer negative life events. Critical thinking more strongly predicted life events than intelligence and significantly added to the variance explained by IQ.
You clearly don't actually know what you're talking about, which makes your endless drunk cloud-yelling that much more amusing to mock.
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In fact, I like my side so much, I'll give you odds. Your 6.8k vs my 10k.
I reject the structure of the wager. Nobody in their right mind would propose or accept such a wager except as a gamble. (I'll let you figure out what that means...)