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Originally Posted by d2_e4
So, I got a little ban from politics (specifically the "Trump" thread) for not staying on topic and spamming my views about religion. I was told that this was the right forum.
I do not believe that those who believe in a literal god are capable of rational thought, and I believe that it is pointless trying to debate with them on an intellectual level - whether it be on religion or on other topics - because dogma, loyalty and narrative (i.e faith) are more important to them than logic.
Those who believe in a figurative god - these are the ones that claim to be "spiritual" - are well-meaning but still deluded. Reasoning with them also presents its own challenges, albeit more nuanced than with the former group. However, in my experience, for the most part, logic still eludes their grasp.
There are probably highly intelligent people in this world who have sufficient capacity for analysis and introspection that they can separate their religious beliefs from their "other" thinking. However, these people are few and far between, if they exist at all. To suggest that Joe Blow can do the same is facile.
With that said, and with everything that is going on in the US right now (I'm being somewhat oblique as if I am expelled from this forum back to politics, I will have nowhere to go!), I would like to pose the following question: are religious people capable of logical thought processes and rational discussion?
d2_e4,
I would like you to reread this post, and then watch this short
youtube clip of Richard Dawkins explaining how the universe was
created by "nothing." Then I would like you to answer the question
as to who is the irrational one in the video clip, the bloviating atheist,
or the theists.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v34QjYPuiEA
Then, I would like to kick your ass at chess.