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03-30-2012 , 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by NotReady
He was quoting someone, can't remember who.
Samuel Johnson. And I hate to be that guy, but Johnson wasn't even talking about patriotism generally, as people understandably suppose.

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Originally Posted by Wiki
In 1774 he printed The Patriot, a critique of what he viewed as false patriotism. On the evening of 7 April 1775, he made the famous statement, "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel." This line was not, as widely believed, about patriotism in general, but the false use of the term "patriotism" by John Stuart, 3rd Earl of Bute (the patriot-minister) and his supporters; Johnson opposed "self-professed Patriots" in general, but valued what he considered "true" self-professed patriotism.
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03-30-2012 , 11:38 PM
“Again and again across the centuries, cosmic discoveries have demoted our self-image. Earth was once assumed to be astronomically unique, until astronomers learned that Earth is just another planet orbiting the Sun. Then we presumed the Sun was unique, until we learned that the countless stars of the night sky are suns themselves. Then we presumed our galaxy, the Milky Way, was the entire known universe, until we established that the countless fuzzy things in the sky are other galaxies, dotting the landscape of our known universe.

Today, how easy it is to presume that one universe is all there is. Yet emerging theories of modern cosmology, as well as the continually reaffirmed improbability that anything is unique, require that we remain open to the latest assault on our plea for distinctiveness: multiple universes, otherwise known as the “multiverse,” in which ours is just one of countless bubbles bursting forth from the fabric of the cosmos.”
― Neil deGrasse Tyson, Cosmic Horizons: Astronomy at the Cutting Edge
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03-31-2012 , 12:27 AM
In advice to a young man on Sicilian Business Advice:
Beware of the man who proclaims his own honesty. If at the dinner table, start counting your silverware. From American Born Sicilian. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNwj5SixYZg
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03-31-2012 , 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by All-In Flynn
Samuel Johnson. And I hate to be that guy, but Johnson wasn't even talking about patriotism generally, as people understandably suppose.
I didn't take Dylan's usage to mean genuine patriotism either but a slam on hypocritical flag wavers. It was more about scoundrels than patriotism.
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03-31-2012 , 12:51 AM
Charles Williams - Shadows of Ecstasy

"What was it Gibbon said-'all religions are equally useful to the statesman'!"
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03-31-2012 , 05:31 PM
I also hate love to be that guy but if any theist philosopher-wannabe tells you Marx said "Religion is the opiate of the people" as if a supporting or redeeming quality, you may like to present them his words in context.

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Originally Posted by Karl Marx
Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.
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03-31-2012 , 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by HENLEYS
I also hate love to be that guy but if any theist philosopher-wannabe tells you Marx said "Religion is the opiate of the people" as if a supporting or redeeming quality, you may like to present them his words in context.
Hmm, does anyone actually suggest Marx saw religion as progressive?

Sure, religion is exploited by rulers. But isn't Marx also recognizing people genuinely seek some solace, and that that is understandable? And the context you provide actually seems to suggest the agency is coming more from the masses than manipulative rulers.
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04-02-2012 , 10:35 PM
Dostoevsky - Brothers Karamazov

Smerdyakov to Ivan

"You used to say yourself that everything was lawful, so now why are
you so upset, too? "
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04-03-2012 , 11:38 AM
Illusions: The Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah

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"You teach best what you most need to learn."
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"Argue for your limitations, and sure enough, they're yours."
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"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it true. You may have to work for it however."
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04-03-2012 , 05:43 PM
"What hinders men from seeing and hearing God, is their own hearing, seeing and willing; by their own wills they separate themselves from the will of God. They see and hear within their own desires, which obstructs them from seeing and hearing God. Terrestrial and material things overshadow them, and they cannot see beyond their own human nature. If they would be still, desist from thinking and feeling with their own self-hood, subdue the self-will, enter into a state of resignation, into a divine union with Christ, who sees God, and hears God, and speaks with him, who knows the word and will of God; then would the eternal hearing seeing and speaking become revealed to them. "

Jacob Boehme (1575-1624 C.E.)
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04-03-2012 , 11:07 PM
There are only two people I sing for: my God and my dog. My God because He can hear me, and me dog because he can't!
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04-04-2012 , 02:01 AM
“Limited in his nature, infinite in his desire, man is a fallen god who remembers heaven.” –Alphonse de Lamartine
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04-04-2012 , 05:26 PM
Peacefully they will die, peacefully they will expire in your name, and beyond the grave they will find only death.

But we will keep the secret, and for your own happiness we will entice them with a heavenly and eternal reward.

-The Grand Inquisitor to his 'Saviour' in The Brothers Karamazov

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Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound.

-Fulke Greville


Both these quotes are cited in God is not Great - Christopher Hitchens.
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04-05-2012 , 09:33 AM
from "Ripple" by Robert Hunter & Jerry Garcia


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You are a...
Ripple in still water..
Where there is no pebble tossed,
nor wind to blow...
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04-05-2012 , 10:23 AM
Before the good book came along
there was no good way to know
if a thing was good or not that good
or kinda touch and go
If I wanna know which way to go
it's too the good book that I go
'cause the good book is a book
and it is good, and it's a book.

Tim Minchin
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04-05-2012 , 10:49 AM
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

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"Not everything has a name. Some things lead us into a realm beyond words."
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04-05-2012 , 12:42 PM
Jesus Christ

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"Greater is He that is in you, than he that is in the world."
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04-05-2012 , 12:56 PM
"If you wish for peace, prepare for war''.
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04-06-2012 , 02:51 PM
Instead of searching for what you do not have,
find out what it is that you have never lost. That
which is there before the beginning and after the
ending of everything; that to which there is no
birth, nor death. That immovable state, which
is not affected by the birth and death of a body
or a mind, that state you must perceive.

- Nisargadatta Maharaj

All doubts will cease only when the doubter
and his source has been found. There is no
use removing doubts one by one. If we clear
one doubt, another doubt will arise and there
will be no end of doubts. But if, by seeking the
source of the doubter, the doubter is found to
be really non-existent, then all doubts will cease.

- Sri Ramana Maharshi
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04-06-2012 , 05:03 PM
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When it comes to bull****, big-time, major league bull****, you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims, religion. No contest. No contest. Religion. Religion easily has the greatest bull**** story ever told. Think about it. Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!

But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money! Religion takes in billions of dollars, they pay no taxes, and they always need a little more. Now, you talk about a good bull**** story. Holy ****!

But I want you to know something, this is sincere, I want you to know, when it comes to believing in God, I really tried. I really, really tried. I tried to believe that there is a God, who created each of us in His own image and likeness, loves us very much, and keeps a close eye on things. I really tried to believe that, but I gotta tell you, the longer you live, the more you look around, the more you realize, something is ****ed up.

Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed. Results like these do not belong on the résumé of a Supreme Being. This is the kind of **** you'd expect from an office temp with a bad attitude. And just between you and me, in any decently-run universe, this guy would've been out on his all-powerful ass a long time ago. And by the way, I say "this guy", because I firmly believe, looking at these results, that if there is a God, it has to be a man.

No woman could or would ever **** things up like this. So, if there is a God, I think most reasonable people might agree that he's at least incompetent, and maybe, just maybe, doesn't give a ****. Doesn't give a ****, which I admire in a person, and which would explain a lot of these bad results.

So rather than be just another mindless religious robot, mindlessly and aimlessly and blindly believing that all of this is in the hands of some spooky incompetent father figure who doesn't give a ****, I decided to look around for something else to worship. Something I could really count on.

And immediately, I thought of the sun. Happened like that. Overnight I became a sun-worshipper. Well, not overnight, you can't see the sun at night. But first thing the next morning, I became a sun-worshipper. Several reasons. First of all, I can see the sun, okay? Unlike some other gods I could mention, I can actually see the sun. I'm big on that. If I can see something, I don't know, it kind of helps the credibility along, you know? So everyday I can see the sun, as it gives me everything I need; heat, light, food, flowers in the park, reflections on the lake, an occasional skin cancer, but hey. At least there are no crucifixions, and we're not setting people on fire simply because they don't agree with us.

Sun worship is fairly simple. There's no mystery, no miracles, no pageantry, no one asks for money, there are no songs to learn, and we don't have a special building where we all gather once a week to compare clothing. And the best thing about the sun, it never tells me I'm unworthy. Doesn't tell me I'm a bad person who needs to be saved. Hasn't said an unkind word. Treats me fine. So, I worship the sun. But, I don't pray to the sun. Know why? I wouldn't presume on our friendship. It's not polite.

I've often thought people treat God rather rudely, don't you? Asking trillions and trillions of prayers every day. Asking and pleading and begging for favors. Do this, gimme that, I need a new car, I want a better job. And most of this praying takes place on Sunday His day off. It's not nice. And it's no way to treat a friend.

But people do pray, and they pray for a lot of different things, you know, your sister needs an operation on her crotch, your brother was arrested for defecating in a mall. But most of all, you'd really like to **** that hot little redhead down at the convenience store. You know, the one with the eyepatch and the clubfoot? Can you pray for that? I think you'd have to. And I say, fine. Pray for anything you want. Pray for anything, but what about the Divine Plan?

Remember that? The Divine Plan. Long time ago, God made a Divine Plan. Gave it a lot of thought, decided it was a good plan, put it into practice. And for billions and billions of years, the Divine Plan has been doing just fine. Now, you come along, and pray for something. Well suppose the thing you want isn't in God's Divine Plan? What do you want Him to do? Change His plan? Just for you? Doesn't it seem a little arrogant? It's a Divine Plan. What's the use of being God if every run-down shmuck with a two-dollar prayerbook can come along and **** up Your Plan?

And here's something else, another problem you might have: Suppose your prayers aren't answered. What do you say? "Well, it's God's will." "Thy Will Be Done." Fine, but if it's God's will, and He's going to do what He wants to anyway, why the **** bother praying in the first place? Seems like a big waste of time to me! Couldn't you just skip the praying part and go right to His Will? It's all very confusing.

So to get around a lot of this, I decided to worship the sun. But, as I said, I don't pray to the sun. You know who I pray to? Joe Pesci. Two reasons: First of all, I think he's a good actor, okay? To me, that counts. Second, he looks like a guy who can get things done. Joe Pesci doesn't **** around. In fact, Joe Pesci came through on a couple of things that God was having trouble with.

For years I asked God to do something about my noisy neighbor with the barking dog, Joe Pesci straightened that ********** out with one visit. It's amazing what you can accomplish with a simple baseball bat.

So I've been praying to Joe for about a year now. And I noticed something. I noticed that all the prayers I used to offer to God, and all the prayers I now offer to Joe Pesci, are being answered at about the same 50% rate. Half the time I get what I want, half the time I don't. Same as God, 50-50. Same as the four-leaf clover and the horseshoe, the wishing well and the rabbit's foot, same as the Mojo Man, same as the Voodoo Lady who tells you your fortune by squeezing the goat's testicles, it's all the same: 50-50. So just pick your superstition, sit back, make a wish, and enjoy yourself.

And for those of you who look to The Bible for moral lessons and literary qualities, I might suggest a couple of other stories for you. You might want to look at the Three Little Pigs, that's a good one. Has a nice happy ending, I'm sure you'll like that. Then there's Little Red Riding Hood, although it does have that X-rated part where the Big Bad Wolf actually eats the grandmother. Which I didn't care for, by the way. And finally, I've always drawn a great deal of moral comfort from Humpty Dumpty. The part I like the best? "All the king's horses and all the king's men couldn't put Humpty Dumpty back together again." That's because there is no Humpty Dumpty, and there is no God. None, not one, no God, never was.

In fact, I'm gonna put it this way. If there is a God, may he strike this audience dead! See? Nothing happened. Nothing happened? Everybody's okay? All right, tell you what, I'll raise the stakes a little bit. If there is a God, may he strike me dead. See? Nothing happened, oh, wait, I've got a little cramp in my leg. And my balls hurt. Plus, I'm blind. I'm blind, oh, now I'm okay again, must have been Joe Pesci, huh? God Bless Joe Pesci. Thank you all very much. Joe Bless You!
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Last edited by stueycal; 04-06-2012 at 05:08 PM. Reason: but george carlin for teh noobs
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04-06-2012 , 09:35 PM
Worship me or I will torture you forever.

-God
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04-07-2012 , 09:55 AM
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Let's try to keep it to quotations, which imply brevity. If you find yourself typing paragraph breaks and it isn't dialogue, it's probably too long.
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04-07-2012 , 05:04 PM
Eckhart Tolle

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"The reason why some people love to engage in dangerous activities, such as mountain climbing, car racing, and so on, although they may not be aware of it, is that it forces them into the Now -- that intensely alive state that is free of time, free of problems, free of thinking, free of the burden of the personality."
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04-07-2012 , 05:20 PM
Jason Statham as "Jake Green" in Revolver

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"There is something about yourself that you don't know.
Something that you will deny even exists until it's too late to do anything about it.
It's the only reason you get up in the morning, the only reason you suffer the ****ty boss, the blood, the sweat and the tears. This is because you want people to know how good, attractive, generous, funny, wild and clever you really are.
"Fear or revere me, but please think I'm special." We share an addiction. We're approval junkies.
We're all in it for the slap on the back and the gold watch. The "hip, hip, hoo-****ing-rah."
Look at the clever boy with the badge, polishing his trophy. Shine on, you crazy diamond.
Cos we're just monkeys wrapped in suits, begging for the approval of others."
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04-09-2012 , 01:02 PM
C.S. Lewis - Religion Without Dogma

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It would be impossible to accept naturalism itself if we really and consistently believed naturalism. For naturalism is a system of thought. But for naturalism all thoughts are mere events with irrational causes. It is, to me at any rate, impossible to regard the thoughts that make up naturalism in that way and, at the same time, to regard them as a real insight into external reality.
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