The Quote Thread. - Page 8 - Religion, God, and Theology

It's just the bible is such a smorgasbord of awesome material.

"Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass." (1 Samuel 15:3)

....but to get back on topic:

"I have examined all the known superstitions of the world, and I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology." -Thomas Jefferson

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03-21-2012 , 05:06 PM

#177

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False statement.

tame_deuces followed me into this thread to argue on page 11.

People follow me around all the time in this forum looking for debates. Even in threads I specifically state are not dedicated to debating.

Pooter was implying a contradiction where there was none.

I just pointed out the contradiction is non-existent. What argument did I make? As far as I can see I made nothing but a correction.

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03-21-2012 , 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Splendour

False statement.

tame_deuces followed me into this thread to argue on page 11.

Page 11? Someone's stingy with there posts per page setting.

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Originally Posted by Splendour

Pooter was implying a contradiction where there was none.

I just pointed out the contradiction is non-existent. What argument did I make? As far as I can see I made nothing but a correction.

A correction is an argument. If I post the quote "Christ is revered as the Prince of Peace, but more blood has been shed in His name than any other figure in history." -Frank Sinatra...Are you going to post immediately after me and argue it might not be technically accurate, or just let it stand on its own in a QUOTE thread?

Grunch....might make for an interesting thread. A debate in quote form.

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03-21-2012 , 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by asdfasdf32

The Bible quote is correct. FYI, the Jefferson quote may be spurious according to the Monticello website that monitors these things. "We have not found this quotation in any of Jefferson's known writings. "

http://www.monticello.org/site/jeffe...nity-quotation

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03-21-2012 , 09:05 PM

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Just posting my favorite quotes read into them what you will. This is last i will say as this is a quote thread not a debate thread.

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03-22-2012 , 01:20 AM

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"We are half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us, like an arrogant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea. We are far too easily pleased."
-C.S. Lewis

"The chief end of man is to glorify God by enjoying Him forever." -John Piper

"It was good of you to look for Quentin."
"Good!" she exclaimed. "Good! O Anthony!"
"Well, so it was," he answered. "Or good in you. How accurate one has to be with one's prepositions! Perhaps it was a preposition wrong that set the whole world awry."
-Charles Williams

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03-22-2012 , 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Wizard-50

You don't have to like C.S. Lewis or subscribe to his beliefs to agree that this is an awesome quote.

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03-22-2012 , 08:06 PM

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It's not academia's fault that some organized religions have decided to tie morals to outdated models of knowledge.

-tame_deuces

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03-23-2012 , 03:44 AM

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Gilbert and Sullivan - HMS Pinafore

RALPH. I am poor in the essence of happiness, lady -- rich
only in never-ending unrest. In me there meet a combination of
antithetical elements which are at eternal war with one another.
Driven hither by objective influences -- thither by subjective
emotions -- wafted one moment into blazing day, by mocking hope -
- plunged the next into the Cimmerian darkness of tangible
despair, I am but a living ganglion of irreconcilable
antagonisms. I hope I make myself clear, lady?

JOS. Perfectly.

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03-23-2012 , 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pooter

Just posting my favorite quotes read into them what you will. This is last i will say as this is a quote thread not a debate thread.

I agree with this. I am not going to go back at this point and delete anything, but no arguing about the quotes. If you feel that a quote was offensive or something like that report it and either OrP or myself will look at the post.

Also, this has not been said before but I do not feel that we need bible quotes ITT. Some very nice gentlemen already compiled a whole book of quotes and even numbered them for us, everyone has access to them.

If anyone an an issue with this feel free to PM OrP or myself.

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03-24-2012 , 09:37 AM

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Religion is what keep the poor from murdering the rich.

-Napoleon Bonaparte

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03-24-2012 , 09:45 AM

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Prayer does not change God, but it changes him who prays.
Soren Kierkegaard

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03-24-2012 , 10:01 AM

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Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

-Voltaire (Francois Marie Aroute) 1694 - 1778

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03-24-2012 , 10:54 AM

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Tell a devout Christian that his wife is cheating on him, or that frozen yogurt can make a man invisible, and he is likely to require as much evidence as anyone else, and to be persuaded only to the extent that you give it. Tell him that the book he keeps by his bed was written by an invisible deity who will punish him with fire for eternity if he fails to accept its every incredible claim about the universe, and he seems to require no evidence whatsoever.

-Sam Harris

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03-25-2012 , 02:42 PM

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Religion comes from the period of human prehistory where nobody—not even the mighty Democritus who concluded that all matter was made from atoms—had the smallest idea what was going on. It comes from the bawling and fearful infancy of our species, and is a babyish attempt to meet our inescapable demand for knowledge (as well as for comfort, reassurance, and other infantile needs). Today the least educated of my children knows much more about the natural order than any of the founders of religion.

-Christopher Hitchens from 'God is not Great'

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03-26-2012 , 01:03 PM

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Charles Williams - Place of the Lion

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A morning of Light was on the earth; the hippopotamus lumbered from the river, the boar charged from the forest, the great apes swung down to the ground before a figure of strength and beauty, the young and glorious archetype of humanity. A voice, crying out in song, went through the air of Eden,--a voice that swept up as the eagle, and with every call renewed its youth. All music was the scattered echo of that voice; all poetry was the approach of the fallen understanding to that unfallen meaning.

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03-26-2012 , 06:19 PM

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Our religion is a defense against the experience of God. - Joseph Campbell

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03-27-2012 , 04:09 PM

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Albert Einstein

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“I don't try to imagine a God;
it suffices to stand in awe of the structure of the world, insofar as it allows our inadequate senses to appreciate it.”

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03-29-2012 , 01:33 AM

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The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.

And you ask me why I am an Atheist?

-Unknown

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03-29-2012 , 10:57 AM

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I think that's Richard Carrier.

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03-29-2012 , 12:02 PM

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The Matrix Reloaded

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Merovingian: Here he is at last: Neo, the One himself. Right? And the legendary Morpheus.
And Trinity, of course, si belle qu'elle me fait souffrir. I have heard so much, you honor me. Please, sit, join us.
This is my wife Persephone. Something to eat? Drink? [chuckles]
Of course such things are contrivances, like so much here. For the sake of appearances.

Neo: No, thank you.

Merovingian: Yes, of course. Who has time.. Who has time?
But then if we do not ever take time, how can we ever have time? [Twins smirk; Merovingian inhales, savoring the scent of his wine]
Château Haut-Brion mille neuf cent cinquante neuf, magnificent wine.
I love French wine, like I love the French language. I have sampled every language; French is my favorite.
Fantastic language, especially to curse with.
Nom de Dieu de putain de bordel de merde de saloperies de connards d'enculé de ta mère...
it's like wiping your arse with silk, I love it.

Morpheus: You know why we are here.

Merovingian: [condescendingly] I am a trafficker of information, I know everything I can.
The question is, do you know why you are here?

Morpheus: We are looking for the Keymaker.

Merovingian: Oh yes, it is true. The Keymaker, of course. But this is not a reason, this is not a why;
the Keymaker himself, his very nature, is a means, not an end, and so to look for him is to be looking for a means to do...what?

Neo: You know the answer to that question.

Merovingian: But do you? You think you do, but you do not.
You are here because you were sent here, you were told to come here and then you obeyed. [chuckles]
It is of course the way of all things.
You see, there is only one constant, one universal, it is the only real truth: causality. Action, reaction. Cause, effect.

Morpheus: Everything begins with choice.

Merovingian: No. Wrong. Choice is an illusion, created between those with power and those without.
Look there, at that woman. My God, just look at her. Affecting everyone around her; so obvious, so bourgeois, so boring.
But wait. Watch, you see, I have sent her a dessert...a very special dessert. I wrote it myself.
It starts so simply; each line of the program creating a new effect, just like...poetry. First, a rush. Heat. Her heart flutters.
You can see it, Neo, yes? She does not understand, why? Is it the wine? No...what is it, then, what is the reason?
But soon it does not matter. Soon the why and the reason are gone, and all that matters is the feeling itself.
And this is the nature of the universe; we struggle against it, we fight to deny it, but it is of course pretend, it is a lie.
Beneath our poised appearance, the truth is we are completely out of control. [inhales] Causality.
There is no escaping it. We are forever slaves to it. Our only hope, our only peace is to understand it, to understand the why. Why is what separates us from them, you from me.
Why is the only real source of power, without it you are powerless.
And this is how you come to me: without why, without power, another link in the chain.
But, fear not, since I have seen how good you are at following orders, I will tell you what to do next.
Run back, and give the fortune-teller this message: her time is almost up. [stands]
Now, I have some real business to attend to, so I will bid you adieu and goodbye.

Neo: This isn't over.

Merovingian: Oh yes it is. The Keymaker is mine and I see no reason why I should give him up. No reason at all.

Persephone: Where are you going?

Merovingian: Please, ma cherie, I have already told you: we are all victims of causality.
I drank too much wine; now I must take a piss. Cause and effect. Au revoir.

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03-29-2012 , 08:33 PM

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Lao Tzu (c.604 - 531 B.C.)

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"In the pursuit of Knowledge,
every day something is added.
In the practice of the Way,
every day something is dropped.

Less and less do you need to force things,
until finally you arrive at non-action.
When nothing is done,
nothing is left undone."

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03-29-2012 , 09:42 PM

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Religion is like a blind man, looking in a black room, for a black cat that isn't there, and finding it!

-Oscar Wilde

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03-30-2012 , 09:37 PM

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Zzzzz all this anti-religion stuff gets so old, it's such an easy target. How about going after something tougher, like quantum mechanics or supply side economics or school privitization.

Here's one that never gets old -- going after the religion of nationalism:

"War is the health of the state." -- Randolph Bourne.

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03-30-2012 , 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Haywood

Bob Dylan - Sweetheart Like You

"Patriotism is the last refuge to which a scoundrel clings".

He was quoting someone, can't remember who.

Edit:
Oh yeah, the second part:

"Steal a little and they throw you in jail, steal a lot and they make you king".

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