Jib, please attempt to support this quote ITT.

Thanks,
rizeagainst

What a completely ridiculous statement to make. But standard for Jibby, I guess.

Can you link to the thread where he said this?

imo more people will be atheist in 100 years

He also wrote:


So he thinks his estimation that atheism/naturalism will die in 100 years is actually conservative.

The funny thing is, if I had been living at the peak of the age of exciting new science say 150 years ago, I might have felt so optimistic about unlocking the secrets of the universe that I'd have predicted religion would be close to extinct in 100 years.

(I still think religion should be close to extinct, but am old enough to have seen how little rational thought surrounds it, and no longer expect it to be extinct in 100 years, just for its influence to continue to diminish.)

I think there is a slow movement from atheism toward deism and/or agnosticism amoung people who study cosmology. Recent discoveries have made it very difficult to reject the notion of the existence of a creator.

Fred Hoyle and Antony Flew were both stuanch atheists who changed their minds prior to their deaths.

he's obviously trolling and using sarcasm to point out the absurdity of the OP that he was responding to. Then, knowing that it would get everyone's panties in a bunch, continued with the shenanigans when people responded to him.

Oh and what recent discovery is that?

And this is based on what? The fact that you anomaly mined 2 dudes that support it from google? Do you like have any actual statistics and facts to back up what you just said?

yeah i actually pretty much agree with this. Stu and Jib I think are both half-troll half-real posters.

In Fred Hoyle's case I think it was the tri-alpha process.

I wish I had written this.

http://henry.pha.jhu.edu/haisch.html

Review of "The God Theory" by Bernard Haish ... for the Journal of Scientific Exploration by Professor Richard Conn Henry, Professor of Physics and Astronomy, The Johns Hopkins University.


Excerpt:

Stu: Recent discoveries had made it very difficult to reject the notion of a creator.
Vix: Really, what are those discoveries that have made it very difficult to reject the notion of a creator?
Stu: Well, this one deceased Astronomer/Mathematician that I anomaly mined from google may have been convinced by some process in nuclear fusion that I'd rather not talk about or explain any further on how it might or might not support the idea that it is now very difficult to reject the notion of a creator.
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Stu: I think cosmologists are becoming more deistic and less atheistic. Hey, here's two dudes I found on google that might support this.
Rize: That's not very good support for the statement that cosmologists are becoming more deistic and less atheistic. You need actual statistics to say something like that.
Stu: ?

Both Jib and I think you are at least 3/4 troll.

Stu: Recent discoveries had made it very difficult to reject the notion of a creator.
Rize: And this is based on what? The fact that you anomaly mined 2 dudes that support it from google? Do you like have any actual statistics and facts to back up what you just said?
Duffe: Hey Rize, here's a dude that likes the idea of god and wrote a supportive review of another dude who wrote a book about how he likes the idea of god...but neither at any point actually explains why god is helpful, needed or required for any part of science. Hopefully this convinced you why recent discoveries have made it very difficult to reject the notion of a creator, Rize!

Says the guy who trolls on anonymous 2+2 accounts pretending to be a girl, can't spell 50% of words correctly without the auto-spell checker built into the forum software, has 8 children and is widely agreed to be a horrible, horrible poster in this forum.

Awesome life, bro.

Auto-spell checker is not built into the forum software silly. You have to download ieSpell for it to work(which I have never bothered to do).

Would you like to expound what recent discoveries have made it very difficult to reject the notion of a creator?

Or are you happy to stand pat with "An astronomer that died 10 years ago may have been convinced by some thermo-nuclear process that I don't want to bother explaining how it supports my original statement"?

Are you not happy with your life or with your reputation on this forum? You sound like a very sad clown to me.

You've now made 5 posts in this thread. Do you believe that you've actually said anything of value? If so, what.

Have you said anything to disprove Jib's statement? We are not arguing facts here, we are arguing speculation. The fact that you get your panties all balled up arguing speculations is a testiment to your impotent character.

Comments like Jib's shouldn't get you all wound up.....unless you already think there is a little bit of truth in them.....that would explain why you feel so threatened.

We need to go over the burden of proof AGAIN?

Stop being so obtuse. You can't prove what beliefs people will hold 100 years from now.

When debating any issue, there is an implicit burden of proof on him or her making a claim.

Claim: "within 100 years or so atheism/naturalism/materialism will probably close to extinct"

What exactly is it that makes this claim "probable"? I'm still waiting for Jib, but the complete and utter failure of an attempt that you made on his behalf does not give me hope that he actually has any good reasons for believing this beyond the fact that he wants atheism/naturalism to be extinct 100 years from now.