"Theists: the piranas have a question for you..." (morals) - Page 2 - Religion, God, and Theology

Why do you think that Religion is the only source of morals? You are making so many assumptions and jumping to so many conclusions that Im not sure where to start.

Well, let's start with an actual refutation of my statements. Sounds like a good place to me.

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02-19-2009 , 01:04 AM

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spaceman Bryce

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02-19-2009 , 01:11 AM

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loK2thabrain

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Originally Posted by Jibninjas

This is a gross misunderstanding of what many theists believe. It is not that I think without the bible, or God putting morals inside us, people would be incapable of knowing what is right or wrong.

It is that there would be no right or wrong. You are left with moral relativism which when boiled down leads to basically nothingness.

You cannot say, as an atheist, that anything is right or wrong universally. You cannot claim that what Hitler did was morally wrong, you can just say that you did not like it, or that it was a social fopaux(sp?). After all there were plenty of nazis that thought what Hitler was doing was a great thing.

If we are just animals living in a sophisticated animal kingdom, then there cannot be any substantial moral law.

Morals then become relegated to a matter of taste or opinion. Just like beauty. Some one can say that a girl is beautiful and you might disagree, but that does not make that person incorrect, nor does that mean that the girl is not beautiful.

In the same manner as if I killed Joe down the street. To me it was the right thing to do. You might disagree, but that does not mean that I was incorrect, nor does it mean that killing Joe was not the right thing to do.

You can devise whatever social moral code you want, but in the end it is no different and no more right then the standards that have been created by society to decide what a beautiful girl looks like.

Ummm...all you're saying is that the term/label "morals" only exists because of Christianity.

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02-19-2009 , 10:49 AM

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Jibninjas

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Originally Posted by Butcho22

Ummm...all you're saying is that the term/label "morals" only exists because of Christianity.

That is not what I said at all. And I never said that it had to be Christianity either.

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