Yep, he's still human

As someone from outside the UK (from your location) how on earth would you know that. AFAIK its a fairly common appraisal.

1. My location is not outside the UK
2. I live in the UK

You are basically just making **** up at least admit it. Its **** you have heard your circle of friends say or whatever and you are applying it to the whole country.

Well it says Eire, so I cant be blamed believing it.
But what do you know outside your circle of friends that I dont, were on a level playing field here.

So lets look at the blair-obama nexus, and see if the comparison is apposite.

Lawyer -Check
Greasier than Peter Stringfellows thong -Check
Leftist -Check
Fall to bits without prepared material-Check
Constitutional vandal-Check
Big goverment, tax-and-spend-Check

I am from Eire. Eire and the UK are not mutually exclusive territories.

FYP btw.

If you are going to come out with something wholly unbelievable then you are going to have to back it up. We are not on a level playing field I am not the one making the ridiculous assertion.

Whats wholly unbelievable?
I dont think that Obama is exceptionally intelligent, and he has many similarities to Blair IMO. Is that so hard to accept?

When I said "Blair2.0", I didnt actually mean that Tony had blacked up and started to affect an American accent.
I'm not trying to start a Faceoff-esque conspiracy here.

Anyway heres a little snippet of the Obamessiah in action;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abPQ9...eature=related

He doesn't come across as particularly special when unscripted.

EDIT: As for your "fixing"of my post. If you dont think that Obama is in the tax and spend mould, then you have no place entering into a discussion. If you wish to debate that then please explain this to me (and the rest of the world) http://blog.heritage.org/2011/02/22/...-obama-budget/

Your assertion that the UK public think he is the new Tony Blair in any way. that is a ridiculous assertion and not reflective of general opinion whatsoever.

Apparantly you are another Stu Pidasso. Requirements for intelligence are to be amongst the most intelligent people to have ever lived apparantly. Maybe stricter than that? Maybe the fact he is human means he is not especially intelligent enough.

Becoming president is a big deal, I just don't see the connection that ties being the first black president to being especially smart.

I would say that this presidential candidate has record that demonstrates he is smarter than Obama.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Cain

Perhaps you should point out how it in any way demonstrates this?

Its not at all a coincidence you chose a black republican either I suppose. You vote republican right?

You are making a fool of yourself. I know just as much of UK public opinion as you do, that is the level playing field on which we stand.

IF you read what I am saying, you will see that I havent called for him to be of super being status. I'm saying I just dont think hes 'owt special, is all.

Please try to justify the position that Obama is not a tax-and-spend leader.
You cant of course, as that is the only "wholly unbelievable" assertion that either of us has made.

Here is a great Obama quote:Just as it would be a terrible mistake to borrow against our children’s future to pay our way today, it would be equally wrong to neglect their future by failing to invest in areas that will determine our economic success in this new century.

Thats politico for, "we've hit the bottom of the barrel, but boy are we gonna keep digging!" I can just imagine him jackin it to Keynes as he said that.

People still see that as a meaningful accomplishment?

So?

I never claimed he was especially smart, but you are trying to diminish the accomplishment he has achieved...

Cain took two failing business units and returned them to profitability which demonstrates to me he has the ability to solve problems. Obama can't point to anything which demonstrates his ability to solve problems.

Cain was a chairman of a federal reserve bank, but I don't think that is evidence he is especially smart.

I choose a black republican because under different circumstances he could have been the first black president of the united states but the color of his skin is no indicator of his intelligence.

I vote for the pro life candidate.

I just don't see how the man's skin color is germain to the conversation.

If were gonna compare contemporary, American, Black politicians then Alan (Allen) West is the WINNAR hands down.

Now I hate all that Yankee-Republican-God-bothering, but when he speaks you just now he means it! Unlike those from the Blair/Obama used car salesman school of rhetoric.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MZx38i6iYs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhOzIQ1-CmQ

Almost makes ya want to whoop and holler like a Texan!

Hes got the shoulders of Schwarzenneger and the spectacles of Lennon; that is a winning combo!

Maybe Obama is smarter that Cain but he hasn't done anything to show it yet.

Correlation<> Causation

You just made this up on the spot as a necessary and sufficient condition for intelligence. It is a pretty stupid metric and basically allows you to blindly pick who is intelligent or not, so none of your evaluations are going to match with how rational people use the word.

No..I said very early on that my criteria for intelligence was the ability to solve problems. What exactly is stupid about the metric?

You don't have a rational criteria for measuring intelligence.

It doesn't matter who is smarter, they are both smart.

(This is how it is done. I don't agree with Cain's politics, but as a rational intelligent person, I can look at his academic and career background I can see he is intelligent

More rational than yours....which is getting good grades and being named head of a school newspaper.

Editor of Harvard Law Review is the most prestigious position a graduate student in the United States can obtain. No person who has ever held it is "not smart". Sorry you don't like his politics, but making the claims you are making just makes you look stupid.

The rational way to measure intelligence is to have a ton of sufficient conditions but almost no necessary ones. Your metric fails miserably in both directions.

So? Here's your claim: I don't know if Cain is very smart, and I also don't know if Obama is smarter than Cain. Basically, it seems like you just don't know what you're talking about but still enjoy making jokes about how Obama isn't very smart. That's fine, it's common for people to make jokes about the stupidity of politicians they don't like very much. Just don't confuse this with anything meaningful.

As for your discussion of their relative ability to "solve problems," the point is that Cain is very successful in his field of business and Obama is even more successful in his field of politics. Your definition of "solving a problem" is too narrow if it doesn't include the problem of getting elected President of the United States. This is about as successful as you can get as a politician.

It isn't clear yet how successful Obama will be as a president, but your criterion doesn't imply that you have to be able to solve all problems in order to be intelligent.

Are you suggesting that a person with an average IQ could not be the President of the Havard Law Review? Also did you know it is an elected position so politics plays into the selection process?