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If we're '99.5% clones of Adam', to paraphrase, hasn't Mary also inherited the curse? So even if God did get Mary preggo, isn't Jesus still 49.5% hosed?
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No, Mary was born without sin. Haven't you heard of the immaculate conception? Someone already thought of that one.

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08-18-2011 , 09:33 AM

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No, Mary was born without sin. Haven't you heard of the immaculate conception? Someone already thought of that one.

Yeah, I know. I find it to be one of the more ridiculous doctrines of the RC Church. And that's saying something. Mary still had parents, right? Those parents still carried the sinful nature, right? So if God could just wave his magic finger and free her from the curse of sin, why couldn't he just do that for the rest of mankind? Why the need for Jesus?

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08-19-2011 , 01:50 PM

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I can observe the world around me and I see he has abandoned his creation.

According to the Bible, he hasn't abandoned his creation. Maybe you abandoned God, but he hasn't abandoned his children or his creation.

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08-19-2011 , 02:34 PM

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According to the Bible, he hasn't abandoned his creation. Maybe you abandoned God, but he hasn't abandoned his children or his creation.

Tell that to the kids in Somalia, tell that to every child dying of cancer at this moment , tell that to every child who is dying of other disease like malaria , tell that to those kids who will die in tsunamis, earthquakes, and other natural disasters.

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08-20-2011 , 03:53 AM

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So...because you have to die...God hates us all?

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08-22-2011 , 05:39 PM

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So...because you have to die...God hates us all?

If he created all these children so that they could be born and live for few weeks, months or years in poverty , starvation , dehydration and disease then he pretty much doesn't love those children, does he...

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08-22-2011 , 05:47 PM

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Only by your definition of the word love, perhaps not by gods definition.

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08-22-2011 , 05:56 PM

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Only by your definition of the word love, perhaps not by gods definition.

seriously? Ok so when you get to heaven don't be surprised when heaven is actually hell, since you know, maybe by his definition heaven is actually hell and hell is heaven...

great news for us atheists, God has different definitions of words , we might be in for a big surprise !

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08-22-2011 , 06:08 PM

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My point is, if an all loving God exists, (if thats an attribute you want to give god) then killing dont seem that unloving, since he knows what happens after to whoever he kills, and has his reasons for doing so. We may not understand those reasons.

If God exists, I dont even think he has to be an all loving God, he can do whatever he wants.

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