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07-15-2010 , 08:12 PM
Pletho

Thanks for agreeing that it is all in the mind.

Regards
DL
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07-15-2010 , 08:18 PM
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Ease up on the empty dogma for Christ's sake and talk of what you can know and not just hear say and Bible say. All hear say from 3000 years ago and translated 14 times.

Needing a new nature implies that there is something wrong with the one God originally gave us. impossible for you to believe if you believe your dogma.

Deuteronomy 32:4
He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.

Matthew 7:18
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

If these are B S then say so.

I discard hoping people are reborn but hope for literalists and fundamentals to grow up instead and recognize fantasy from reality.

Satan, angels talking animals and water walking immortal Gods who die are all fantasy.

Regards
DL
The one nature that God originally gave Adam, was made up of 3 parts, body, soul and spirit and the nature that was lost was spirit, it was a nature that was given upon a condition, which was broken. That nature was made available again by Jesus Christ, its called holy spirit.

As for all the fantasy and reality stuff, sorry that you are so intelligent that you do not believe in spiritual realities.
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07-15-2010 , 08:20 PM
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Great, since you know that Jesus Christ didn't even consider equality with God something to be grasped, then it should be simple that they could not be the same being.

I am not trying to control anyone or anything, just making statements that are simple, and plain and easy to understand.

If you or anyone else gets frustrated I apologize for your frustration that the word of God that I am quoting is causing. But the word is the standard for truth, and thats why I quote it, it stops the nonsense and people have to either become very dishonest with me, which is easy to see on a thread or they rationalize, or they lie or they try and change the subject or throw out some other subject that is not even relevant to what I am saying.

I am very simple, not complex, very straight forward and do not water the word down, I speak what it says and let it do its work.

Because:

Hbr 4:12 For the word of God [is] quick (living), and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner (critic) of the thoughts and intents (motivations) of the heart.
Matthew 5:48
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect

Strange that the Bible urges us to the impossible.
Especially since we began as perfect and if the following is true, never lose it.

You just have to try to grasp that we are all evolving perfection.

Deuteronomy 32:4
He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.

Matthew 7:18
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

Unless of course you prefer to thing that God, the good tree, produces corrupt works/us.

Regards
DL
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07-15-2010 , 08:21 PM
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Pletho

Thanks for agreeing that it is all in the mind.

Regards
DL
Yep, its all in the mind, the mind is a powerful thing.
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07-15-2010 , 08:25 PM
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Matthew 5:48
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect

Strange that the Bible urges us to the impossible.
Especially since we began as perfect and if the following is true, never lose it.

You just have to try to grasp that we are all evolving perfection.

Deuteronomy 32:4
He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.

Matthew 7:18
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

Unless of course you prefer to thing that God, the good tree, produces corrupt works/us.

Regards
DL
Your posts are starting to show me your lack of understanding of the bible. Thats okay though its not that big of a deal. If you want to understand which I really think you do not I would explain, I think you are merely trying to show off what you think is intelligence.
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07-15-2010 , 08:32 PM
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Yes!



P.S. Moses will be raised from the dead in what is biblically called the ressurection of the just....along with David and Noah and all the other believers who lived before Christianity was available which started on the day of Pentecost.
Just a bit behind the times friend.

http://www.raceandhistory.com/histor...tingexodus.htm

To believe the story of Moses as real. you would have to believe that staffs turn into snakes and the God would harden Pharaoh's heart/mind, in order to kill the first born.

Do you believe these?

Regards
DL
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07-15-2010 , 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Pletho
The one nature that God originally gave Adam, was made up of 3 parts, body, soul and spirit and the nature that was lost was spirit, it was a nature that was given upon a condition, which was broken. That nature was made available again by Jesus Christ, its called holy spirit.

As for all the fantasy and reality stuff, sorry that you are so intelligent that you do not believe in spiritual realities.
So the moment Adam gained a moral sense He lost his spirit.

Show the scripture. You are full of it.

Regards
DL
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07-15-2010 , 08:41 PM
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Your posts are starting to show me your lack of understanding of the bible. Thats okay though its not that big of a deal. If you want to understand which I really think you do not I would explain, I think you are merely trying to show off what you think is intelligence.
And I begin to think that those who say you want to lead all beliefs here are right.
The fact that you completely ignore my reference to apotheosis proves it. It is all about you and your inflated ego.

Lets see how you far in understanding Eden. So far, not good.

BTW, "As for all the fantasy and reality stuff, sorry that you are so intelligent that you do not believe in spiritual realities."

There is a difference. The fantasy characters that I think you believe in have nothing to do with spiritual maters.

Regards
DL
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07-15-2010 , 11:15 PM
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And I begin to think that those who say you want to lead all beliefs here are right.
The fact that you completely ignore my reference to apotheosis proves it. It is all about you and your inflated ego.

Lets see how you far in understanding Eden. So far, not good.

BTW, "As for all the fantasy and reality stuff, sorry that you are so intelligent that you do not believe in spiritual realities."

There is a difference. The fantasy characters that I think you believe in have nothing to do with spiritual maters.

Regards
DL
I think its great that you believe in a universal God, but you cannot understand the God that created the universe by studying the natural surroundings of the universe, the ONLY way you can understand anyone truly is by knowing their heart, their innermost thoughts.

I love the fact that you do not believe in the trinity and the diety of Christ, since neither exist at all. But you also do not believe in the bible yet you try to quote it for some reason as if you believe it. You try to use it to disprove that I do not know what I am talking about.

How do you expect me to explain myself, when my explanations about the word will come from the word which you do not believe in? Sure you may know some verses by memory or by looking them up, but its impossible for you to understand them, unless you are a Christian which cleary you are not unless you have confessed Jesus Christ as your lord and believed in your heart that God raised him from the dead.

We can leave this conversation if you would like as we agree to disagree about the bible and thats fine with me.
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07-16-2010 , 06:24 AM
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I think its great that you believe in a universal God, but you cannot understand the God that created the universe by studying the natural surroundings of the universe, the ONLY way you can understand anyone truly is by knowing their heart, their innermost thoughts.

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As expressed by their expression by word or writing.

Hard to do for an absentee imaginary God.

You go ahead in believing that God can die and that it is good to profit from the murder of an innocent man.

You are learning real good morals from your knowledge of God.

Keep sucking on Jesus' tit.

Regards
DL
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07-16-2010 , 08:50 AM
Jesus ****in Christ, I am the greatest is pwning everyone.

Great god dam work!!!
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07-16-2010 , 09:42 AM
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As expressed by their expression by word or writing.

Hard to do for an absentee imaginary God.

You go ahead in believing that God can die and that it is good to profit from the murder of an innocent man.

You are learning real good morals from your knowledge of God.

Keep sucking on Jesus' tit.

Regards
DL
After all this conversation you still think that I think Jesus Christ was God and the God died?

Were you absent in that whole conversation?

The word of God, speaks of the whole creation as proof that God exist by the way, so your on the right track. Eventually you may belief system may mature into a true and vital spiritual relationship with the God that you believe exist.

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the ONLY way you can understand anyone truly is by knowing their heart, their innermost thoughts.
For example as I talk to you I am getting to know you regardless of your flesh or what you may physically look like, just by reading your words.

God is no different, except He has no flesh.

Psa 33:11 The counsel of the LORD (the word of God) standeth for ever, the thoughts of his heart to all generations.

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07-16-2010 , 09:48 AM
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Jesus ****in Christ, I am the greatest is pwning everyone.

Great god dam work!!!
Actually your kinda a goof
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07-16-2010 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Pletho
After all this conversation you still think that I think Jesus Christ was God and the God died?

Were you absent in that whole conversation?

The word of God, speaks of the whole creation as proof that God exist by the way, so your on the right track. Eventually you may belief system may mature into a true and vital spiritual relationship with the God that you believe exist.



For example as I talk to you I am getting to know you regardless of your flesh or what you may physically look like, just by reading your words.

God is no different, except He has no flesh.

Psa 33:11 The counsel of the LORD (the word of God) standeth for ever, the thoughts of his heart to all generations.
Your Word, has nothing to do with the words of God.
They are all written by man and hears say.
You are brave trusting your soul on the words of men.

Regards
DL
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07-16-2010 , 11:38 AM
Pletho he seems to be determined to present himself as a cartoon character. Meh...why even bother...
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07-16-2010 , 11:47 AM
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Your Word, has nothing to do with the words of God.
They are all written by man and hears say.
You are brave trusting your soul on the words of men.

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DL
LOL! Whats the worst that could happen?

I have proof that what I believe is 100% truth, and the only way you can see the proof is to believe.
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07-16-2010 , 11:49 AM
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Pletho he seems to be determined to present himself as a cartoon character. Meh...why even bother...
Yes, he is now starting to show his true colors...
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07-16-2010 , 11:55 AM
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Yes, he is now starting to show his true colors...
Well on this board a lot of its "pretend time" and for "giggles"...

They like to make Christians "repressive" but they forget the alternate extreme is "fantasy".

So while you are all the time running around explaining why Christianity isn't repressive fantasy is doing its damage.

Read Nietzsche's Superman...Its promoting a fantasy...

All it takes is one nut to think he's a Superman then the rights of other people don't matter only his delusions of grandeur matter.
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07-16-2010 , 11:55 AM
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I have proof that what I believe is 100% truth, and the only way you can see the proof is to believe.
Uhh whut?
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07-16-2010 , 12:58 PM
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LOL! Whats the worst that could happen?

I have proof that what I believe is 100% truth, and the only way you can see the proof is to believe.
Belief is built from facts and I cannot see the facts till I believe.
Makes good sense. Not.

I have a flying pig but you cannot see it till you believe in flying pigs.
Believe and you will see it. trust me. It is real. Trust me.

Regards
DL
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07-16-2010 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Splendour
Well on this board a lot of its "pretend time" and for "giggles"...

They like to make Christians "repressive" but they forget the alternate extreme is "fantasy".

So while you are all the time running around explaining why Christianity isn't repressive fantasy is doing its damage.

Read Nietzsche's Superman...Its promoting a fantasy...

All it takes is one nut to think he's a Superman then the rights of other people don't matter only his delusions of grandeur matter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDbesQQi9yc

This fits you two.

Regards
DL
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07-16-2010 , 01:02 PM
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Uhh whut?
Check post 146. You will understand what we are looking at.

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DL
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07-16-2010 , 01:12 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDbesQQi9yc

This fits you two.

Regards
DL
The guy in the video is an amateur intellectual.

Why would you go spray painting things in the air to identify God?

Try evaluating the evidence God himself presents.
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07-16-2010 , 02:25 PM
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The guy in the video is an amateur intellectual.

Why would you go spray painting things in the air to identify God?

Try evaluating the evidence God himself presents.
A good debater would have included examples of this evidence in the same post.
Keeps the e mail down.

Like what evidence?
Don't say His word for God's sake.
If that is evidence, it is evidence that has been debated for 3000 years and only believers think it is worth much.

Regards
DL
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07-16-2010 , 02:28 PM
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The guy in the video is an amateur intellectual.

Why would you go spray painting things in the air to identify God?

Try evaluating the evidence God himself presents.
Carl Sagan will be pleased that you think him an amateur BTW.
That guy was reading carl's work.

Regards
DL
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