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12-22-2010 , 02:31 PM
I don't know many people who try to wonder what would a person(soul if it exists) would do in an eternal afterlife... Maybe some of you who believe in afterlife can give me some ideas what will you be doing. I`m assuming you also think that souls are non-physical and if that is so, how will one recognize their friends from other souls, how do souls communicate, do you just float in the space eternally? Never eat ice cream again? have sex, play poker, watch tv, etc? this sounds pretty boring, no? so what is the purpose of eternal life as a soul?
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12-22-2010 , 06:18 PM
The idea of the afterlife is that you will have a corporeal reincarnation.
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12-22-2010 , 07:13 PM
The purpose of the afterlife is to stoke the egos of people who are so full of themselve that they think they are too important for the universe to go on without them.
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12-22-2010 , 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by lawdude
The purpose of the afterlife is to stoke the egos of people who are so full of themselve that they think they are too important for the universe to go on without them.
and how do you know that? i guess you were referring to yourself
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12-22-2010 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by rica
and how do you know that? i guess you were referring to yourself
I don't *know* that. But the rhetoric of believers about how they are "saved" and "God has a plan for me" and everything else they say certainly does show that these are incredibly egotistical people.

Believe me, if there is a God, the creator of the universe, billions of light years across, has more important matters than making sure that your sorry ass doesn't have to die.
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12-23-2010 , 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by lawdude
The purpose of the afterlife is to stoke the egos of people who are so full of themselve that they think they are too important for the universe to go on without them.
This



Also it is used as a tool to control the flocks.
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12-23-2010 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by gskowal
I don't know many people who try to wonder what would a person(soul if it exists) would do in an eternal afterlife... Maybe some of you who believe in afterlife can give me some ideas what will you be doing. I`m assuming you also think that souls are non-physical and if that is so, how will one recognize their friends from other souls, how do souls communicate, do you just float in the space eternally? Never eat ice cream again? have sex, play poker, watch tv, etc? this sounds pretty boring, no? so what is the purpose of eternal life as a soul?
You will be in the presence of God. Past that, I don't know. I could guess, but so can you.
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12-24-2010 , 03:34 AM
No I tihnk the idea of afterlife was a physical one, otherwise people wouldn't want it. Who wants to be floating around in some void forever? Its basically like an everlasting lucid dream with everlasting ectasy gobstoppers to suck on.

Basically the purpose is to remove the fear of death, which is due to the ego and was nailed by lawdude. The human mind cannot perceive itself as not existing, well it can and that is the true key to happiness imo but for most people it is impossible as the beliefs or 'faith' as they like to call it is too strong.

Nirvana is the only one which is kind of plausible and makes sense even in a scientific view. Buddha was a genius. Death, quantum mechanics, energy, how was he right with so much stuff?
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12-24-2010 , 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by lawdude
I don't *know* that. But the rhetoric of believers about how they are "saved" and "God has a plan for me" and everything else they say certainly does show that these are incredibly egotistical people.

Believe me, if there is a God, the creator of the universe, billions of light years across, has more important matters than making sure that your sorry ass doesn't have to die.
I hear this same argument used when athletes thank God after winning a game. I'm not advocating any particular view on the existence of God, but if the Biblical God exists then I don't think he is bound by time in the same way we are so I think he has time to address everything no matter how trivial it may seem to us.
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12-24-2010 , 04:50 AM
My rhetoric is a bit snarky, but there's actually two parts to it. First, that God has other things to attend to. Second, that you aren't important enough to the workings of the universe for God to be concerned about your continued existence.

Even if we assume God can do an infinite number of things at once (which is an assumption, nothing more), that doesn't answer the second point.
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12-24-2010 , 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by gskowal
I don't know many people who try to wonder what would a person(soul if it exists) would do in an eternal afterlife... Maybe some of you who believe in afterlife can give me some ideas what will you be doing. I`m assuming you also think that souls are non-physical and if that is so, how will one recognize their friends from other souls, how do souls communicate, do you just float in the space eternally? Never eat ice cream again? have sex, play poker, watch tv, etc? this sounds pretty boring, no? so what is the purpose of eternal life as a soul?
To experiencially know God face to face....... there is much more to it than that but thats the ultimate......
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12-24-2010 , 05:38 AM
People always want an explanation for what happens after you die

What about what happened before you were born? You didn't exist? If that's the case there's no reason to assume there is an afterlife.
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12-24-2010 , 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Pletho
To experiencially know God face to face....... there is much more to it than that but thats the ultimate......
and then what you gonna do for the rest of eternity?
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12-24-2010 , 01:26 PM
lucid dream,,, everlasting ectasy gobstoppers

torture all the people in hell?

group hugs?
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12-24-2010 , 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by lawdude
I don't *know* that. But the rhetoric of believers about how they are "saved" and "God has a plan for me" and everything else they say certainly does show that these are incredibly egotistical people.

Believe me, if there is a God, the creator of the universe, billions of light years across, has more important matters than making sure that your sorry ass doesn't have to die.
What if we are God's version of The Sims?
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12-24-2010 , 02:23 PM
one thing I was thinking, is whats the point in this massive universe if there is no one to admire it and appreciate it. If there is something in common throughout all humans and maybe all animals is that the universe is awesome and incredible. So maybe our purpose is just to observe and admire, otherwise its just a universe, and without any observation, the universe is pretty meaningless it might aswell be empty.
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12-24-2010 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by lawdude
My rhetoric is a bit snarky, but there's actually two parts to it. First, that God has other things to attend to. Second, that you aren't important enough to the workings of the universe for God to be concerned about your continued existence.

Even if we assume God can do an infinite number of things at once (which is an assumption, nothing more), that doesn't answer the second point.
By using words like "important" or "other things to attend to" implies that God has to prioritize, with assumes that he cannot do everything that "needs to be done" with equal effort. I don't know why we would assume something like that, especially given the amount of power the creator of the universe would have to have.

To your second point, why would we assume such a thing? Why would we believe that the being that created us would not be concerned with us? That seems like an lol bad assumption baring any sort of strong evidence.
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12-24-2010 , 04:17 PM
at some point, living an infinite amount of time will be no different than being dead, especially if:

1. the "free will" we have in heaven is a tiny subset of the free will we have on earth
2. no new souls will leave or enter heaven, so you always interact with the same group of souls
3. that God is unchanging

eventually, you will have experienced everything there is to experience a near infinite number of times. By then, I can't say that being unable to "die" is any better than just dying right away.
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12-24-2010 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Jibninjas
By using words like "important" or "other things to attend to" implies that God has to prioritize, with assumes that he cannot do everything that "needs to be done" with equal effort. I don't know why we would assume something like that, espIecially given the amount of power the creator of the universe would have to have.

To your second point, why would we assume such a thing? Why would we believe that the being that created us would not be concerned with us? That seems like an lol bad assumption baring any sort of strong evidence.
I actually think this comment advances the ball a little. And that is, saying God created the universe and us doesn't mean that She is specifically concerned about us. She created ants too. Does that mean She is necessarily concerned with ensuring that any particular ant lives forever?

So yes, Jib, my answer is that it is entirely possible that a God who created the universe would not care about whether an individual human lives forever. Especially since the size and scope of the universe strongly suggests that even we as a species (let alone each of us as an individual) have no importance whatsoever.

Which gets us back to the fact that any believer who thinks that he or she is important enough to the universe that God would feel the need to ensure that he or she will never die must have a collossal ego.
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