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Originally Posted by Do0rDoNot
Yep, its totally an open question if math has real world applications onto the universe that gives rise to it.
I await an example of "the real line" being used in a real world application sort of way.
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The mind that holds the concept of the real line or topology isn't in nature? How peculiar. Of course a little thinking on this (more than zero) and we can see the concept is conceptual, and concepts happen in conceivers, and conceivers are indeed a part of nature, which proves those concepts part of nature. Further thinking still entails that the topological or underlying structure of the universe which gives rise to you, also gives rise to your mind, which gives rise to the concepts in your mind. So math really is an aspect of nature, isn't it?
*Yawn*
Once again, we've come to the place where you're just smashing words together as if they're meaningful when they're not. The whole is the same as the part and every property of the part is also a property of the whole, and when I flip a coin it is both heads and tails but cannot be self-contradictory, and blah blah blah.
The universe that exists inside my head and the universe that exists outside of it are not identical to each other.
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Unless you're claiming you don't exist again.
I can conceive of a universe in which I don't exist. Therefore, your logic concludes that such a universe must exist in reality. Because any time something is conceived in the mind, it is made manifest in reality because what is the universe other than what exists and since it exists in my head it must be real. Hence, I don't exist and yet I do exist at the same time, which isn't a contradiction.