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Poll: How many of you did something to help the less fortunate this xmas? Poll: How many of you did something to help the less fortunate this xmas?
View Poll Results: Have you done anything to help the less fortunate this christmas?
Yes
16 45.71%
No
16 45.71%
Prefer not to answer
3 8.57%

02-09-2014 , 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Original Position
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Other problems people have identified are the low pay and long hours of workers in Chinese factories (I don't agree that this is a problem probably, but that is a different discussion).
Ok, I'm not really interested in exploring that in much more depth than I have already anyway because it's not essential to my argument, I feel that I have enough to justify my position just with the DRC mines. However, I urge you to do some reading up because your disagreement that it is a problem (even recognising that you added 'probably') makes me wonder how well you're informed on this subject. It's a subject that regularly crops up in the media, I don't think that we can say that there isn't a problem, and establishing that it's connected to Western consumer habits is trivially easy. (Is that the right terminology?)
Let me put it this way: in most cases I think that the low pay and 60-hour work week is better than the alternative.
FWIW, I agree with Mightyboosh that workers on low pay working long hours is a problem even though I agree with this claim. I don't think that's contradictory, it just means the issue is complicated. I think we should do what we can to make their current conditions transitory (and recognise that any method of lifting their pay is not necessarily a good thing).
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02-09-2014 , 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by bunny
FWIW, I agree with Mightyboosh that workers on low pay working long hours is a problem even though I agree with this claim. I don't think that's contradictory, it just means the issue is complicated. I think we should do what we can to make their current conditions transitory (and recognise that any method of lifting their pay is not necessarily a good thing).
I think a lot of this depends on how much you weight the good of future generations versus people currently living.
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02-09-2014 , 11:52 PM
I'm also a sucker for moral purity arguments.
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02-12-2014 , 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by bunny
I'm also a sucker for moral purity arguments.
One of the deeper rabbit holes. Mostly a waste of time unless you enjoy the volley all the live long day.

Cigars, whisky, and a good book are more useful and much less wasteful of your time, which is always too short.

I suggest:

How to Live - 0r - A Life of Montaigne, by Sarah Bakewell
On Revolution, by Hannah Arendt
Cosa Nostra: A History of the Sicilian Mafia, by John Dickie.

A Bunny should not live on grass alone.
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