I'm not explaining anything to literal fundy atheists any more.

I just posted a discovery.

You can construct it any way you like since you're in charge of your own mind.

As for me I let God lead me. I gave Him charge over my person and thinking a long time ago.

Blah blah blah. You don't understand almost anything you post unless it's directly based on scripture. For example:

- I'm not a literal fundy atheist. I'm an agnostic atheist.
- What you posted is not a discovery. No disrespect to Sperry, but he's been dead for nearly 20 years.
- What you posted is just one of many hypotheses among those who study the mind.
- The hypothesis you posted, if true, would have no bearing on atheism.
- The scientist you quoted specifically denies dualism.

Much like your other recent embarrassing attempts to discredit Darwinism by championing Lamarck and your baffling posts about epigenetics, you've skim-read some wikipedia pages and created your own narrative. What's really frustrating is not that you make bad arguments in defense of your position, it's that you don't even know what arguments you're supposed to be making! Any atheist here could do a much much better job of defending your position than you do.

I'm not arguing. I don't care about arguments. I care about spiritual growth and spiritual discoveries.

You can stay in your spiritual agitation all by yourself, zumby. You're the one that argues yourself into it.

I've been saying the Lord's Prayer, sometimes several times a day, for several years now.

CASE OF MOTHER TERESA POINTS OUT NEED FOR SPIRITUAL PROTECTION
http://www.spiritdaily.org/teresadeliverance.htm

I think you misunderstand the way we use the word 'argument' in this forum.

noun
1an exchange of diverging or opposite views, typically a heated or angry one:
I’ve had an argument with my father
heated arguments over public spending
[mass noun]:
there was some argument about the decision
2a reason or set of reasons given in support of an idea, action or theory:
there is a strong argument for submitting a formal appeal

You love posting quotes from Christian apologists. Apologetics are a form of argument.

I'd advise you to stop being addicted to arguing.

Arguing has a competitive component to it and if you're on the wrong side your pride will keep you on the wrong side.

Instead petition God for enlightenment.

If you notice the organization of the bible: the Psalms (where one praises God) proceed Proverbs (where God grants people wisdom).

That the bible is organized that way is no accident.

Now imagine you are constantly kicking out your enlightenment from God by arguing against Him before He can enlighten you personally.

That's what most people do up here.

The Apologists on the board are serving God. There is a purpose to what they do.

There's no purpose behind what an atheist does though.

God will absolutely teach a person to govern himself if you ask Him that is.

Imagine what a crime it is against yourself if God can't teach you to govern yourself.

There are crimes against the self, y'know. Suicide is one of them.

You are literally the worst apologist in the history of mankind. Don't ever change. xx

See how fast your pride is.

You didn't even reflect on what I said.

Quote: Evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins may add another volume to The Delusion of Disbelief, Daniel Dennet may publish two more books on Breaking the Spell, Christopher Hitchens' God is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything may sell another 296,000 copies as it did within seven weeks after its publication, and Sam Haris' Letter to a Christian Nation may sell another 300,000 copies.

That is not going to stop people from pursuing their quest for God and spirituality. Just because a scientist can describe the rose flower in the language of science, using scientific vocabulary like word photosynthesis, etc., is not going to make any difference in the way a person smells the flower.

Spirituality is about the feeling of transcendence, being in the presence of the holy and sacred. Spirituality deals with the person's inner world which is experiential, reflective and meaning oriented, whereas scientific explanations, arguments and theories are the scientist's exercise of his/her cognitive mind operating within his/her area of expertise (left brain).

God said to Abraham, "But for me, you would not be here." "I know that, Lord," Abraham answered, "but were I not here, there would be no one to think of you. --Old Jewish Tale -end quote

From a site page of Dr. Charles Mark's site Spiritual Intelligence and the Brain, Center for Spirituality, Counseling and Help

http://spirituality-intelligence.com/why_spirituality

FYI - statements saying pretty much the same thing have been said every year for the past 7-8 years. It doesn't get better. If anything, she's gotten worse. She used to try to actually reason through her thought processes.

Now, whenever she encounters a challenge to anything she's posted she simply and immediately resorts to "I'm not arguing.... I'm channelling God.... since you're an atheist you won't understand... etc." In the old days there was sometimes some back and forth. I think after all these years of having countless people point out the flaws in her arguments, her lack of understanding of the very posts she makes, etc., she's realized that she can't defend her postings at all... so now she just claims victory and refuses to have a dialogue about it.

This will continue for years into the future.

Original Position sez: This is not a quotation, this is an argument with a scriptural citation to support it. As such, its proper place is here rather than in the "The Quote Thread."

Nietzsche misinterpreted the demon's behavior. You don't feed a demon...sometimes you have to starve him out to expel him.

The real authority on demons is Jesus Christ:

“Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4 Blessed are those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.

Jesus Christ also advocated fasting to expel certain types of demons who like to lurk in the senses.

Christian ideology is based on idealism.

Naturalism is based on the sensate.

The world always has trouble expelling evil without God's revealed ways and help.

what is in our nature cannot be expelled..
it is better understood for what it is, accepted, and transcended..

i prefer this method..
observe the demon squirm in its anxiety as i choose only but to observe it squirm..

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i don't agree his was a misinterpretation, rather his reasons may not be agreeable to you..

the demon's behavior is not at issue..
in this quote, he has singled out the WHY we feed..or starve it..
for even in the act of starving, we are acknowledging it as a threat to our inherent divinity.

the origin of either intent arises from the same source..
and it is only our reasons that differ in their own self-justification..

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all the atrocities of this world have indeed served their higher purpose, for nothing is manifest that is not God's will..

Jesus Christ merely provided one with the means to cope with such perceived evils, until said evils can be revealed to be figments of the dream..
a comforting soul to rest one's worries in without need for fasting, indeed..

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you speak Truth, for all the treasures in Creation cannot satisfy the lustful greed of the LOVE of Power..

to be Kings on Earth, where one's possessions were never their own..
it must be a grand experience to discover how far one is allowed to endeavor in their pursuits of mortal God-hood..

what then can be rendered to Caesar, that is not already of God's?

the power-hungry serve their purpose however, and a most noble one..
for some must be enslaved and destitute of all dignity to kneel at the feet of the One True Living God..
He literally has the whole world in His Hands..and those hands are into Everything.

man's Love of Power...
a Love mostly hidden behind wicked intentions, and illusions of grandeur..
or exposed openly, ghastly..for all with eyes to see to bear witness..
nonetheless..a Love that must be explored for the greater good of All..

love to you, Splendour..

I actually like this thread.

Are you kidding me?

If someone gives you mercy isn't it natural to be thankful? Don't they go together?

It's like a surreal message for me that the wikipic tied the cross into that time and place. I have relatives buried under a cross like that in a national cemetery.

Ugh, no...they don't "go" together.

From Middle French merci, mercy, from Old French merci, from Latin mercēdem, accusative singular of mercēs (“wages, fee, price”).

Yeah, language hides a lot of secret meanings.

Did you know some people think English is related to or grew in part out of ancient Hebrew?

Jesus Christ is the debt holder of the world. The wages of sin are death and he paid our debt to set us free. It's our choice whether or not we will attempt to discharge our debt to him.

'Some people' are very wrong.

Edenics: Hebrew roots found in English words
By Jeff A. Benner

http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/26_edenics.html

^^^ Holy crap do you not understand how anything works?

Do you?

Quote:


The origin of language in the human species has been the topic of scholarly discussions for several centuries. In spite of this, there is no consensus on its ultimate origin or age. One problem that makes the topic difficult to study is the lack of direct evidence, since neither languages nor the ability to produce them fossilize. Consequently scholars wishing to study the origins of language must draw inferences from other kinds of evidence such as the fossil record or from archaeological evidence, from contemporary language diversity, from studies of language acquisition, and from comparisons between human language and systems of communication existing among other animals, particularly other primates. It is generally agreed upon that the origins of language is closely tied to the origins of modern human behavior, although there is little agreement about the implications and directionality of the connection.

The fact that empirical evidence is limited, has led many scholars to regard the entire topic as unsuitable for serious study. In 1866, the Linguistic Society of Paris went so far as to ban debates on the subject, a prohibition which remained influential across much of the western world until late in the twentieth century.[1] Today, there are numerous hypotheses about how, why, when, and where language might first have emerged.[2] It might seem that there is hardly more agreement today than there was a hundred years ago, when Charles Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection provoked a rash of armchair speculations on the topic.[3] Since the early 1990s, however, a growing number of professional linguists, archaeologists, psychologists, anthropologists, and others have attempted to address with new methods what they are beginning to consider "the hardest problem in science".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_language

Jesus Christ...that doesn't help your argument.

All you have to do is consult history. The House of Israel went into captivity. Those people didn't die out. They went other places and had influences.

It's an anagram: Forge Trumps

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