Think about what you are saying instead of merely reciting the Christian doctrine. Are we and our children and babies really evil right now because somebody ate an apple thousands of years ago? Or is that a religious story that has no actual basis in reality?

You seem incapable of understanding that I believe what I'm saying and that I have reason to. Yes, I believe these things. I'm being honest with you.

If you don't accept what the Bible says about these things there's not really much to talk about unless you have some sort of criticism I can address, but maybe you should read it, it might make a lot of sense to you.

The Bible is rabid garbage spewed out the ass of ignorant illiterate morons that didn’t even know the earth revolves around the sun.

deucedeuces:

You have yet to explain why our being created by the Almighty equates to "God is not perfect." Meanwhile, scripture from God's inspired word, the Judeo-Christian Bible, distinctly states that Jehovah created humanity as an act of love on his part.

“For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life.


BTW: I don't have a clue where you're getting your definition of "perfect." It's erroneous. You stated:

That is NOT the definition of "perfect." The only thing you got right is the part about not having flaws. But the rest of your definition "you have no needs, wants, desires" is not supported by any credible dictionary. Notice below.

Webster's Dictionary:
"The meaning of PERFECT is being entirely without fault or defect : flawless."
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/perfect


Collins Dictionary:
"Something that is perfect is as good as it could possibly be."
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us...nglish/perfect


Britannica Dictionary:
"a: having no mistakes or flaws
https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/perfect


There are many more dictionaries online that give the same definition of "perfect" as the three that were given above.

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walkby:

All Christians don't believe in the Trinity, which is what you're describing here, despite the fact most of the 45,000 denominations within Christendom believe it.

Christians who respect scripture from the Judeo-Christian Bible do not latch onto false religious teachings that are not supported by scripture.



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craig1120:

Please provide scripture to support your claim about an "incarnation" involving Jehovah (the Father) and Jesus Christ (the son) and Jehovah's holy spirit. I need you to give the name of the Bible book, as well as chapter(s) and verse(s). Let's start with three scriptures at a time. Be sure and provide at least one verse among your first three that says Almighty God is a human being.

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If god was perfect , why was the new testament needed to be written ?
Wasn’t the Old Testament enough ?
Isn’t the Old Testament the word of god too ?
So god just changed his mind or was he wrong to make the New Testament ?

FellaGaga-52:

The Bible does not identify what type of fruit was eaten by Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. I very much doubt it was an apple.

In any event, it was never about Adam and Eve eating the forbidden fruit, it was what that fruit represented, namely: Jehovah's right to rule and to give limitations to his created beings (humans in this instance). Scripture says Jehovah told Adam and Eve they could eat from all of the trees in the Garden of Eden except for this one tree.

"Jehovah God also gave this command to the man: "From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction." (Genesis 2:16 -- New World Translation)

"But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die." (Genesis 2:17 -- New World Translation)

When Adam and Eve ate of the forbidden fruit, they sinned against God. They abused their free will by rebelling against the Almighty. When they rebelled, they ceased being perfect. The result was that they could only pass on imperfection to their future children. With imperfection comes sin and death.

All of humanity inherited sin and death from Adam, because we inherited imperfection from him.

"Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned—." (Romans 5:12 -- Legacy Standard Bible)


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Montrealcorp:

The "Old Testament" (also known as the Hebrew Scriptures) and the "New Testament" (also known as the Greek Scriptures) are both part of the same Bible. They are not separate books. The New Testament/NT is simply a continuation of the Old Testament/OT. The NT does not cancel out anything that is found in the OT. Rather, it draws principles from the OT and even quotes verses from the OT, thereby making it clear that the OT is still relevant.

BTW: What has any of that to do with whether or not the author of the Bible (Jehovah) is perfect? The definition of "perfect" does not change because someone has an issue with why the Hebrew Scriptures are followed by the Greek Scriptures.

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The Jewish Bible does not contain the new Testament

Jesus' last supper was a passover seder. This proves Jesus followed old Testament law till the day he died. Why don't Christians celebrate passover and not eat leavened bread for 7 days each year?

If God is perfect, why did he say not to eat pork but now Christians believe it's okay

So two sentences above that I clearly call it a "piece of fruit," just to keep some anal apologist from saying "the Bible doesn't say it was an apple," but it didn't seem to work with you. Then I used the customary metaphor for the fall of "apple," having already covered the literal text. And you chime in with it wasn't an apple??

I see from your fuller post you are quite adept at reciting religious doctrine. What else can you do? That's a lot like a dog rolling over to do tricks, except in this case utter obedience to whatever the mass killer god of love commands. When we get our morals from the 1st Century and before -- and end up with such beliefs as stoning people for sexual orientation, stoning non-virginal women, faithfully committing genocides on god's command, killing witches, infectious disease is caused by demons -- we make of ourselves a fundamentalist barbarian claiming the high road based on one of the thousands of gods created by humankind. Not too wise, it doesn't seem. If there is a case why this is wise, other than stupid level obedience, what is it?