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Originally Posted by walkby
God in the "Christian context" is the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit. As far as I know all three always existed. If that's true then God as a relationship between a Father (the Father) a son (Jesus) and the Father's spirit always existed. If I'm not mistaken everything is for the glory of God (the Father), from creation, to the devil's rebellion (and the rebellion of other angel's), to Adam's initial sin which lead to sin for all of us (and death), to the Father sending Jesus to die for our sins, to the salvation that is in Jesus, possibly even God's love for us and even the wrath that will be poured out on people who die without believing in Jesus' name. It's all done for God's glory. Perhaps at some point before creation there was the desire to do something for God's glory and this is it? The Bible says God is love (meaning the Father, I think), so I think it might be reasonable to think that this is what the Father and the Son are (Jesus said he and his Father are one). though Jesus is fully God and fully man, and maybe even the Holy Spirit, but I'm not sure there, so if all 3 have always existed, that loving relationship has always existed and they might have always done things with and for each other, but at some point maybe this is what they wanted to do or maybe this is what they always wanted to do? Just speculation, I guess, what happened before creation might be beyond our ability to comprehend. I think it's reasonable that God (the Father) could be perfect and still want.
Take the creation part out of it. Does that sentence make logical sense at all? How could a being which is in a state of perfection, absolutely flawless and eternal, have a want for anything? To have a want implies you are lacking something, but to be perfect presupposes that you lack nothing in any aspect. Perfect means perfect across all categories. Perfect intelligence, perfect happiness, perfect contentedness, perfection in all conceivable ways. Perfection wants for nothing because it already has everything.
There would never have been any impetus for a perfect, eternal being to change at all.
The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as three separate beings, but also somehow one, makes no logical sense whatsoever either but I digress on that point.