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Originally Posted by FellaGaga-52
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Originally Posted by Alter2Ego
FellaGaga-52:
The definition of magic that you presented above is not helping your lame argument that, to quote you: "miracle fits nicely under the magic umbrella." In fact, you shot yourself in the foot when you used that definition. You know why? Because it uses the word apparent.
Look up the word "apparent" in any dictionary and you will see that one of its definitions will say something like this: "seeming real or true, but not necessarily so." Compare that with the definition of "miracle" which affirmatively says:
"1 : an extraordinary event manifesting divine intervention in human affairs." (Source Webster's Dictionary)
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/miracle
"an unusual and mysterious event that is thought to have been caused by a god because it does not follow the usual laws of nature:" (Source: Cambridge Dictionary)
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...nglish/miracle
"A miracle is a wonderful and surprising event that is believed to be caused by God." (Source: Collins Dictionary)
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/di...nglish/miracle
miracle noun "[countable] an act or event that does not follow the laws of nature and is believed to be caused by God." (Source: Oxford Dictionary)
https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionari...nglish/miracle
Your insistence that "miracle fits nicely under the magic umbrella" is your desperate attempt at getting two words with different meanings to line up with your personal philosophy that Jehovah and his Son Jesus Christ performed magic (or at least that's what you claim somebody told you).
I gave you the definition of "magic" from two sources and both of them made it clear that magic and miracle do not have the same meaning. Both dictionaries indicate that the word "magic" amounts to illusions (something that is not real) and tricks.
Alter2Ego
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"That people may know that you, whose name is JEHOVAH, you alone are the Most High over all the earth." ~ Psalms 83:18
They and you believe that magic is real, dumbass. And you don't even know it. The whole religion works by supernatural magic, claimed to be actual and literal. When they fashioned the religions of antiquity they didn't know the difference between literal and illusory magic powers, and they just incorporated them right in in their "my god is greater than yours" magic powers claims. A miracle is first and foremost something inexplicable or outside of natural law ... then often attributed to divinities of all sorts. It all comes under the category of BS in a vague, ridiculous "magic = miracle = supernatural = voila religion!" equation.
FellaGaga-52:
I find it interesting that you are allowed to post personal insults on this website to opponents when the opponents believe in God. Back in 2012, the moderators gave me an infraction of 20 points for informing an atheist, during a debate exchange, that he's a loser. But they are allowing you, because you are an atheist, to inform me that I am a "dumbass."
FYI: If you post one more personal attack at me, I will send you permanently to my "Ignore List" where you can join the other 16 that I sent there. Once someone is on my Ignore List, I will not be able to see anything they post anywhere on this website. Conduct yourself accordingly.
Alter2Ego
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"That people may know that you, whose name is JEHOVAH, you alone are the Most High over all the earth." ~ Psalms 83:18
Last edited by Alter2Ego; 05-30-2024 at 07:05 PM.
