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Originally Posted by Alter2Ego
stremba70:
You are dodging all three of my questions and doing a poor job of talking your way around them.
Something tells me you realize the implication of the questions. Below, as a reminder, are those same three simple questions, but this time, I have rephrased them to make it possible for you to give a simple "YES" or "NO" answer.
QUESTION #1 TO stremba70: ALL of the first 60 discovered naturally occurring elements on the Periodic Table are precise--indicating deliberation. Are you saying this was not the result of deliberation by an intelligent being? YES or NO
QUESTION #2 TO stremba70: Did the first 60 discovered naturally occurring elements on the Periodic Table accidentally or spontaneously reflect a distinct, natural numeral order based upon the structure of their atoms? YES or NO
QUESTION #3 TO stremba70: Are you saying there was not any need for the deliberate intervention of an intelligent being in order for the first 60 discovered naturally occurring elements on the Periodic Table to come into existence? YES or NO
Alter2Ego
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"That people may know that you, whose name is JEHOVAH, you alone are the Most High over all the earth." ~ Psalms 83:18
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I’m trying to explain why this isn’t the “gotcha” you think it is. The regularities in the elements arise naturally from natural phenomena, ones very similar to the regularities that underlie the functioning of musical instruments, namely the behavior of standing waves in an energetically bound system. Like I said, quantum mechanics is way too complex to deal with here, but the observed properties of ALL the elements are well explained by it, including the lack of regularities in elements after the filling of the 4f energy level. I’m not sure how much clearer you need me to be: there is no need for God, Yahweh, Zeus, Thor, Krishna, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, or any other mythical, imaginary being, to explain the properties of the elements. The properties of the elements are not accidental, but instead reflect the underlying wave properties of the electrons in their atoms. That doesn’t indicate design, just physical symmetries that we know pervade the universe and make science possible.
Now I’ve answered your questions, answer mine:
1. If the elements were designed, why does the pattern of regularities break down for the elements heavier than the lanthanides? Did God get bored and just want to shake things up or what?
2. If animals are designed, why are there animals that live entirely in the ocean, but have no gills and therefore could potentially drown if they can’t get to the surface to breathe periodically? What kind of incompetent boob would put gills in fish and other sea creatures, but forget to give gills to whales and dolphins?