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Originally Posted by DeuceKicker
I keep coming back to a similar question: How is the argument affected by the fact that ten different people can--using the same definition provided by one of the OAs--conceive of ten different God's, some of whom will be mutually exclusive to each other? (For example, with such drastically different conceptions of how this God would balance greatest Justice with greatest Mercy that both could not possibly exist, yet they both must exist according to the OA being used.)
It doesn't matter how we define "greatest", it's about conceiving something which nothing greater could be conceived, presumably only one thing can be the "best."
So if different people conceive of different Gods, they should all conclude in the one which no greater could be conceived, regardless of how they think that looks.
I always thought it was strange, personally, to add omni-benevolence to this list. A nihilist would not agree that this concept even exists, let alone be "better" than omni-malevolence, which seems to beg the question a little. But for the sake of the OA, it is implied, so it doesn't matter how we define justice and mercy, but this all-powerful God would posses these attributes, regardless of how we think they might look. In the end it doesn't matter how we personally conceive this being to look like, but that we can't conceive of a greater being.
The truth is we can't conceive of eternity. We can't comprehend what omnipotence truly means. We understand what it implies, but I'm not sure we can really grok these concepts to say with confidence - "I can conceive of that which none greater can be conceived." Does this negate the entire OA? I'm not sure, I think this is what Orp was alluding to earlier. I think just the fact that we can imagine one thing being greater than the others is enough, but I'm not entirely sure.