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02-21-2014 , 02:59 PM
I stayed with a friend last night and we stayed up all night and drank and bs'd. But my friend's mom was acting really strange all night, opening the front door every 45 seconds or so and talking in spanish to ... well, no one. This went on non-stop from about 3am to noon, and she kept waking me up with her frequent arguments and door slamming. My spanish is bad, so I really don't know what she was saying. I know she is supposed to be medicated, and my friend should be on top of it, but isn't, admittedly. I know she has been hospitalized before because she slipped off her meds and lost control.

Cue this morning. About 65 minutes ago. Her mom gets on the phone and opens the front door and starts reading off the address. I heard "muchacho" and "emergencia" and realized she was calling the police. My friend came out of the room and tried to take the phone off of her. Loud fighting ensued in spanish.

The mother went into her room and I asked my friend what she said. She just told me that she called the police but that they know her and they won't come. I know better. They were in the house within minutes. Apparently her mother reported that one man was chasing another man with a gun! in front of the CVS.

The police made it clear that if they get another call, the mother will be hospitalized.

Then my friend asked me to give her and her mother a ride to her doctor's appointment. I was to stay with her mom in the car. I refused. I wanted the phone taken away from her. Plus was kinda mad that she didn't quite tell me the whole story that was reported to the police earlier. The first cop that showed up was a rookie, for sure, who was taking the report very seriously, and I was very uncomfortable, and thinking what might have happened if I had tried to leave immediately after realizing she called the police. I could have been shot or killed. Good thing I just sat quietly on the couch in the living room the whole time.

1. My friend is not giving her mom her medication like she should. Quite honestly, she can't even take care of herself.

2. I think her mom is at the point of no return and needs to be hospitalized. When I left, she was back to arguing with imaginary people outside the door.

3. No way I'm sitting in a car with her outside a doctor's office in the middle of the city. Especially since my friend refused to take the phone away from her, which was a big condition I had.

Comments? Criticisms?
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02-21-2014 , 03:10 PM
Forgive her mother. She's ill.

Take her to the doctor's appointment. This may lead to her being hospitalised and given the treatment that she needs and isn't currently receiving.
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02-23-2014 , 07:27 PM
I find it odd when Christians describe other metaphysical pantheons as silly or compare them to comic books like David Hart does in The Christian Revolution, though he only does it briefly.

Last edited by Huehuecoyotl; 02-23-2014 at 07:41 PM.
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03-01-2014 , 09:42 AM
I have seen this quote been thrown a lot but I can't seem to find where it comes from. Every time I do a search I stumble upon creationist blogs and websites. Can anyone link me to full article?

“The universe and the laws of physics seem to have been specifically designed for us. If any one of about 40 physical qualities had more than slightly different values, life as we know it could not exist: Either atoms would not be stable, or they wouldn’t combine into molecules, or the stars wouldn’t form the heavier elements, or the universe would collapse before life could develop, and so on…”

Stephen Hawking, Austin American Statesman, October 19, 1997.
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03-01-2014 , 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Ratamahatta
I have seen this quote been thrown a lot but I can't seem to find where it comes from. Every time I do a search I stumble upon creationist blogs and websites. Can anyone link me to full article?

“The universe and the laws of physics seem to have been specifically designed for us. If any one of about 40 physical qualities had more than slightly different values, life as we know it could not exist: Either atoms would not be stable, or they wouldn’t combine into molecules, or the stars wouldn’t form the heavier elements, or the universe would collapse before life could develop, and so on…”

Stephen Hawking, Austin American Statesman, October 19, 1997.
He talks about questions and issues tackled by a show called "The Universe" in a newspaper interview.

Creationists are experts at selective quoting and taking quotes out of context. They have zero interest in a fair debate, because they are bound to lose fair debates. So they cheat, lie, politicize and misquote abundantly.
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03-01-2014 , 10:28 AM
Exactly. I feel like this quote is followed by "however", but I wasn't able to find what follows after.
Thanks, I will keep searching.
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03-01-2014 , 11:39 AM
This wiki has a pretty good summary, though I'd suggest reading Hawking's The Grand Design for his specific "however..." thinking.
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03-01-2014 , 06:14 PM
Wow this is a fantastic article. This part is mind blowing for me:

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Bertrand Russell:
"Why did God issue just those natural laws and no others? If you say that he did it simply from his own good pleasure, and without any reason, you then find that there is something which is not subject to law, and so your train of natural law is interrupted. If you say, as more orthodox theologians do, that in all the laws which God issues he had a reason for giving those laws rather than others -- the reason, of course, being to create the best universe, although you would never think it to look at it -- if there was a reason for the laws which God gave, then God himself was subject to law, and therefore you do not get any advantage by introducing God as an intermediary."
However, I still want to find the full article where Hawking mentions fine-tuned universe. Without it, I can't accuse a person who uses the quote of quote mining, can I?
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03-12-2014 , 12:47 AM
I've only put two people on ignore (that I can think of.) One is still on ignore, yet I read every one of his posts. Especially if it follows one of my own. I read it. I peek, at least. I respond to them openly, in fact, with the quote function and all!

I've given up on the ignore function. It bested me. I'm too curious or too forgiving or simply not as strong-willed as I'd like to be. And I want to believe the best of people, anyway.

Plus, sometimes I post after being "out with friends," and I look back and I say: I regret that post. Or "damn, that was mean." Or whatever. I don't take myself as seriously as I should, sometimes. I wish I didn't say "x" and then have to defend "x," as I'm tied to it now.

But Mightyboosh, I have to give it to you. I doubt that you don't read aaron's replies to your posts. That would be asking too much of a mere mortal. But that you never, ever respond to them. This amazes me.

Either this is proof that you are the most stubborn human being ever to be born (which I'd bet the house on, if I was forced to make the bet,) or... !?? <head explode>

Anyway, you two need to make up already. This s*%^$ is getting ridiculous.
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03-12-2014 , 12:57 AM
Am I the one you took off ignore, or the one who you read all of their posts?

edit: nvm, I figured it out. asdfasdf was the one you took of ignore, I'm the one you read all my posts.

edit 2: oops nope can't rule that way necessarily. You have also ignore listed summerset so its at least 3.

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03-12-2014 , 01:09 AM
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Am I the one you took off ignore, or the one who you read all of their posts?

edit: nvm, I figured it out. asdfasdf was the one you took of ignore, I'm the one you read all my posts.

edit 2: oops nope can't rule that as the cast. You have also ignore listed summerset and are presumably forgetting.
Sommerset is honestly the only one who belongs on my ignore list.

But yeah. It's like you said (originally.)

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03-12-2014 , 01:13 AM
FWIW, I still think you simply confused me for someone else when you put me there...
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03-12-2014 , 01:16 AM
I have suspected that, too, now that you bring it up. But was too lazy to go and research the matter.

uke_master has now been successfully removed from your ignore list. You will now be returned to where you were.
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03-12-2014 , 01:23 AM
victory!


anyways, peace
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03-20-2014 , 03:10 PM
Fred Phelps, the founder of the Westboro Baptist Church died today. Wonder if this will have an impact on the church and its antics.
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03-20-2014 , 03:59 PM
I wonder if there will be protesters at his funeral. I hope people will be classy and stay away, thus emphasizing how despicable WBC is.
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03-21-2014 , 05:17 AM
Yeah, he died surrounded by his family. That is punishment enough.
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03-21-2014 , 12:18 PM
He is in a better place...

Last edited by LEMONZEST; 03-21-2014 at 12:18 PM. Reason: too soon ? :)
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03-24-2014 , 02:03 AM
http://www.tickld.com/x/westboro-bap...not-to-picket-

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Westboro Baptist Church Asks For People Not To Picket Phelp's Funeral
Spoiler:
It's obviously and provably satire.
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03-24-2014 , 04:03 AM
I read that Phelps had been excommunicated from WBC quite recently, which sounds like it should also be satire, but appears to be real. Apparently Phelps wanted a "kinder approach between church members" but was voted off crazy island.

http://cjonline.com/news/2014-03-17/...-within-church
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03-24-2014 , 03:55 PM
I feel like I should have something clever to add but all I can think of is "lol". You can't make this stuff up.

I love that they are asking people not to picket...
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04-03-2014 , 02:29 PM
I think we should have a new theist moderator. Jibninjas is basically awol, except to pop up once in a blue moon and ban a christian, or close a thread started by christians, which just isn't enough, imo, to justify his continued existence as a moderator. If it has come to that, why not just strip him and place someone else in?
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04-03-2014 , 02:48 PM
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I think we should have a new theist moderator. Jibninjas is basically awol, except to pop up once in a blue moon and ban a christian, or close a thread started by christians, which just isn't enough, imo, to justify his continued existence as a moderator. If it has come to that, why not just strip him and place someone else in?
Think these posts are supposed to go in the 'About the Forums' forum. Kinda like the threads that are all about preaching with no discussion aren't supposed to be in the RGT forum.
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04-03-2014 , 03:27 PM
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I think we should have a new theist moderator. Jibninjas is basically awol, except to pop up once in a blue moon and ban a christian, or close a thread started by christians, which just isn't enough, imo, to justify his continued existence as a moderator. If it has come to that, why not just strip him and place someone else in?
If is his fault that only once in a blue moon he needs to do something? Maybe we need more Christians to post things that don't belong in RGT and say things to get banned.
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