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07-19-2013 , 06:17 AM
Yeah, nice work if you can get it.
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07-21-2013 , 02:22 AM
Is it just me or is Daniel Dennett a really bad public speaker? I don't doubt (though I don't really know enough to say much) that he's a legitimate philosopher, but every lecture I watch of his leaves me suspicious he doesn't deserve as much respect as the atheist community gives him.

Edit to add: I don't think the lack of respect ought to be to to his poor public speaking abilities, but I don't know why people are asking him to speak publicly, given his seeming inability to do it well, if it isn't as a result of his stature within a certain atheistic pop-culture.

Last edited by Acemanhattan; 07-21-2013 at 02:34 AM.
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07-25-2013 , 01:35 PM
I think his stature is because of his writing, not his speaking. Victor Stenger is a pretty bad speaker, too.
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07-25-2013 , 01:45 PM
I am always surprised how much better Dobson is live than when reading his books
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07-26-2013 , 06:26 AM
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Is it just me or is Daniel Dennett a really bad public speaker? I don't doubt (though I don't really know enough to say much) that he's a legitimate philosopher, but every lecture I watch of his leaves me suspicious he doesn't deserve as much respect as the atheist community gives him.

Edit to add: I don't think the lack of respect ought to be to to his poor public speaking abilities, but I don't know why people are asking him to speak publicly, given his seeming inability to do it well, if it isn't as a result of his stature within a certain atheistic pop-culture.
I agree with this. I also find him a bit of a bad writer too though; not in the content but in the delivery. The only book of his I've really enjoyed was Darwin's Dangerous Idea, which makes me think that he is only really good at writing if one already is very familiar with the subject matter. I'd contrast him with Steven Pinker, who probably isn't quite as smart as Dennett, but speaks and writes in perfect paragraphs and really manages to convey complex ideas very efficiently.

That said, he certainly is a very legitimate and highly respected/cited philosopher. Just a poor communicator to laymen.
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07-29-2013 , 01:00 PM
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Okay. Okay. You tested my faith, but finally came through when it counted.

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Well, occasionally God has a shaky hand. He isn't the youngest. So above clearly was just quantum effects interfering with Gods will. What he meant to do was

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07-29-2013 , 03:10 PM
Don't be silly. God doesn't care about soccer.
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07-29-2013 , 03:33 PM
He does care about football, though.
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07-29-2013 , 03:35 PM


Word choice was not an accident, obviously.
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07-29-2013 , 03:37 PM
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Don't be silly. God doesn't care about soccer.
He clearly does given Maradona's famous 'hand of god' goal in '86

Probably, like most people, not all that bothered about girls football though to be fair...
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07-29-2013 , 03:37 PM
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He does care about football, though.
Dortmund would have won the Champions League
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07-29-2013 , 04:00 PM
He's testing our faith, ldo.
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08-01-2013 , 10:47 AM
im new to this forum.. can someone explain what the dealio is with the debate thread? i tried to add a discussion point, but it got deleted, so im assuming its not open to everyone?
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08-01-2013 , 10:48 AM
There is a debate rail thread. The debate thread is just for the two debaters
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08-01-2013 , 10:49 AM
Debate thread is for the debaters there's a rail thread I can't link to on a mobile
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08-01-2013 , 11:03 AM
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There is a debate rail thread. The debate thread is just for the two debaters
gotcha, thanks
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08-01-2013 , 11:58 AM
You don't see this very often: http://spon.de/vfyZ6 historical (color) footage by swedish filmers of Hamburg 1948. Everything seems so peaceful.
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08-01-2013 , 03:37 PM
what happened to spot's threads?
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08-01-2013 , 04:41 PM
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You don't see this very often: http://spon.de/vfyZ6 historical (color) footage by swedish filmers of Hamburg 1948. Everything seems so peaceful.
Someday I intend to take in a football match in Hamburg
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08-01-2013 , 04:54 PM
LemonZest -

What was the picture in the OFC thread that got nuked? It kind of looked like a salad on a piece of bread.
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08-01-2013 , 06:03 PM
Haha lol

an open face sandwhich - open face cucumber & avocado sandwich


play on words...
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08-01-2013 , 06:09 PM
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Haha lol

an open face sandwhich - open face cucumber & avocado sandwich


play on words...
Thanks.

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I don't approve of that sandwich. I like avocado, and I'm okay with cucumber in a sandwich... but it just doesn't sound appetizing together. And it kind of just looks like a pile of green mess.
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08-01-2013 , 06:12 PM
Well whatever... I know JC approves. Open face sandwiches have 1/2 the carbs... think about it.
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08-01-2013 , 07:18 PM
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Well whatever... I know JC approves. Open face sandwiches have 1/2 the carbs... think about it.
Tsk. Tsk. JC doesn't approve of your math.
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08-01-2013 , 07:33 PM
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Tsk. Tsk. JC doesn't approve of your math.
wp
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