I'm a big fan of Hudgins, one of the really good contemporary religious poets. Here's another one:

At the Piano

One night two hunters, drunk, came in the tent.
They fired their guns and stood there stupidly
as Daddy left the pulpit, stalked toward them,
and slapped them each across the mouth. He split
one's upper lip.

They beat him like a dog.

They propped their guns against the center pole,
rolled up their sleeves as Daddy stood and preached
about the desecration of God's house.
They punched him down, took turns kicking his ribs,
while thirty old women and sixteen men
sat slack-jawed in their folding chairs and watched.
Just twelve, not knowing what to do, I launched
into "Amazing Grace"--the only hymn
I knew by heart--and everybody sang.
We sang until the hunters grew ashamed
--or maybe tired--and left, taking their guns,
their faces red and gleaming from the work.

They got three years suspended sentence each
and Daddy got another tale of how
Christians are saints and strangers in the world.
I guess he knows. He said that I'd done right
to play the song. God's music saved his life.
But I don't know. I couldn't make a guess.
Can you imagine what it means to be
just barely twelve, a Christian and a girl,
and see your father beaten to a pulp?
Neither can I, God knows, and I was there
in the hot tent, beneath the mildewed cloth,
breathing the August, Alabama air,
and I don't know what happened there, to me.
I told this to my second husband, Jim.
We were just dating then. I cried a lot.
He said, Hush, dear, at least your father got
a chance to turn all four of his cheeks.
I laughed. I knew, right then, I was in love.
But still I see that image of my father,
his weight humped on his shoulders as he tried
to stand, and I kept plunging through the song
so I could watch my hands and not his face,
which was rouged crimson with red clay and blood.

Oh wow, that is awesome. I'll need to find a book of him.

http://www.salon.com/2013/06/27/ammu...slims_partner/

Trolling has reached the arms industry.

I couldn't really hear what the pro-choice people were chanting, but it didn't sound anything like "Hail Satan", there was more of a structure to it. And then one girl at the end says it to the camera. Was she repeating what the demonstrators had been chanting, or is this just spin, and what one (or perhaps a couple of) demonstrators did was spun into the much more exciting report that the entire crowd was chanting for Satan!


Regardless, how each side reframes the others position can be quite interesting. In this argument, the pro-choice side (which is an accurate term, supporting the right to make a choice) is called pro-abortion, despite many pro-choicers being clear that they themselves would never have an abortion, but support the right to decide for others whether to have one OR NOT. The pro-life side (which is only pro-fetus life) gets called anti-choice. Isn't that still accurate, even for a "pro-lifer"?

Myself, I prefer anti-choice and anti-life.

Some brief digging around and it seems that there might have been a small group (5 or less) that chanted Hail Satan, although there is only that one person in the video. There also seems to be reports that this group, or perhaps someone else, was referred to as Satan by some of the Christian group. It's such an out-of-left-field chant to have come up with otherwise, that this sounds quite plausible.

The smoke begins to clear and 'what really happened' is basically what you would have expected to happen when two groups clash (one arguably more religious than the other).

I don't normally do this but this is just such an awesome smack-down by US students on an NSA recruiting team, its highly gratifying. Must-listen. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/shor...ruitment-drive

New Youtube video up shows that this was not an isolated incident, but the slogan/chant for the day. Why can't they just let the girl speak?

But you are right. It is "in question."

Because you have questioned it.

Semi-random idea that I would like feedback on:

My primary forum of residence on 2+2 has been POG for the last 5 years or so. We specialize in a phenomena which is at once mysterious, contentious, and seemingly an enormous waste of time. It's a game called Werewolf. I think the parallels to RGT are immediately obvious.

So I've been kicking around the idea of trying to run an RGT-vs-SMP werewolf game for a while. POG has done "forum crossover" games before, where we recruit players from other 2+2 subforums. It's a mostly self-serving exercise in finding new grist for the werewolf mill, since the player pool turns over from time to time. We're currently consuming the Sporting Events forum.

So the question is: are you interested? I should probably ask in SMP too but zeno intimidates me

Yes. Would posters of both RGT and SMP have to choose sides? I've probably made more posts here, but I think they like me there too.

because of the way the game works, roles have to be assigned randomly, so the "RGT vs SMP" thing would be more for flavor, rather than in actuality the SMP posters taking on the RGT posters

If we consider the aftermath rather than the actual event then I, for one, take affront to this blatant discrimination against Satanism displayed by Christians. They should cease their persecution immediately.

It just goes to show how militant they are.

That's weird, I had just randomly read an article on how the game was played (someone invited me to a game a couple of weeks ago but I had to decline) and then this was the very next post I opened.

thanks for sharing. This is sweet.

Though this means absolutely nothing considering the coating will vaporize as soon as the bullet leaves the chamber. I mean, I guess it would keep ammo out of the hands of Muslum Fundies...

ZOMG I just came up with the perfect Arab gun control!

"So we been going at it all Kopernicus when we need to be Galileo on this bitch, you feel me?"

Discuss!

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/13...hread-1351078/

The title of that thread keeps turning into "Design is evident in the universe derail thread" inside my mind. I don't know why. Maybe it was some priming by Original Position:

Not sure if that makes it easier or harder, though.

Dat news media.

I'm ashamed to say how long it took me to get that

Miso Sah Ree

Why, hello there, future spammer.

This seems like some random **** ...

Buddhist Monk Thailand hunts for fugitive ‘jet-setting’ monk, wanted for statutory rape, money laundering, drug trafficking

Is he trying to one up the televangelists?

^Donaters gonna donate.

nh

btw, let's repeat that figure again: $32 million