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Originally Posted by Rilu
I thank you for your answers. I see no reason why you should claim that I or we will never be interested in developing a relationship with god. I am open to any relationship with any divine beings if someone gives me a reason to assume that this being exists and this relationship is worth my time and effort.
I am still interested to hear your the answer to the question: how do you know all of this? how do you know that he exists?
The history of humans relationship with God has been recorded beginning with the Jewish account through to the new testament. Therefore the answer to the first part of your question your question is we know this through biblical records.
How do I know he exists? Believers begin with any of these premises --- God can be known. He has revealed himself to the prophets. As a rational being he communicates. God actively seeks relationship. God has a plan, a purpose. These are premises we choose to tentatively accept as beginning believers. A non believer would choose to reject these at this point I suppose.
Just to clarify. We are not promised clear and unequivocal revelation with absolute certainty when we choose to begin a relationship with the God of Abraham and Moses and Jesus. What we are given is guidelines. Jesus particularly gives us statements such as seek (and keep seeking) until you find (and you shall find) God.
Im saying there IS NO easy way or answer to finding God. But eventually with a sincere heart you will. Sometimes life is pain and suffering is it not? And eventually each of us must face our final curtain musnt we?
You would like a reason for you to believe if someone gives it. I think each person has their own lock and there is a key which can unlock what lies dormant in their heart. I dont know what the key to your heart is. So I cant answer what might open you to God, his existence and beyond that a relationship.
Try reading the Song of Solomon, one of the old testament books. It is a love poem, and it relates to our relationship between God as the groom and us (the human race collectively and individually) as the bride. The first 5 lines read thus.
Bride -- Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth!
For your love is better than wine,
Your annointing oils are fragrant,
Your name is perfume poured out;
therefore the maidens love you.
Oh fyi im male, and not gay, just thought I needed to clarify since this Song of Solomon can be read homoerotically if you as a male put yourself in the position of bride from this pov.
Last edited by teebeedee; 12-30-2011 at 06:05 AM.