Observing the Sabbath
07-18-2012
, 02:29 PM
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hehehehehehe..
i once was a seeker of trips..
i have yet to experience the apparent mother of all rides though..
if it is to be experienced, then i will surely come across it, when i am ready.
i am smiling, for if one is comfortable in one's shoes, one can travel great distances.
thank you for being me.
i once was a seeker of trips..
i have yet to experience the apparent mother of all rides though..
if it is to be experienced, then i will surely come across it, when i am ready.
i am smiling, for if one is comfortable in one's shoes, one can travel great distances.
thank you for being me.
07-18-2012
, 02:32 PM
07-18-2012
, 03:20 PM
07-18-2012
, 03:28 PM
07-18-2012
, 05:04 PM
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this is big, i don't do new threads.
this topic is of epic proportions, and indeed deserves its own thread.
any scripture i quote, will consequently speak for itself.
for the record, i will not respond to every cited quote you choose to bombard this thread with without your own personal commentary.
feel free to chime in with your thoughts at any time.
there is a lacking of your perspective, but i will still respond accordingly.
now, certain points must be noted in order for you to thoroughly comprehend the reasoning in this response.
1) IMHO, the One True Living God of Creation, is not the "G-d" you believe it to be, until you have shown otherwise.
2) His Kingdom is Here and Now.
I exist in perpetual agreement with the One True Living God's Law, an Ordained Sovereign man on this Earth.
For your benefit, you should be aware that the words I speak cannot be nothing but Truth as I, literally, cannot tell a lie.
If you feel that I have ever in some way "Judged" you, know that His Judgement is Just, as "I" cannot create a victim.
I am nothing but a conduit of His Divine Will.
May the following words find you in Peace..
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Biblical sources:
pagan phallic idol worship.
one should note that the sexually symbolic act of pouring oil onto the idol(or male ejaculation symbolizing fertility, or being fruitful, or multiplying), was a normal custom of the times, and was done honorably and in good faith.
most popularly, it has been relegated to anointing of foreheads with Holy Water, although the pagan custom can still be seen in some cultures, such as India.
nothing wrong with ritual..it provides a sense of order and security..a common fellowship in brother-hood..the feeling of doing something for God.
rituals please my Ego too.
it gives it SOMETHING TO DO!!!
However, the True Self within this vessel, need not for ritual of any nature..
what would that which Observes "need" at all, other than something observably interesting?
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Kiyun/Kaiwan/Chiun = Saturn
the Egyptian or Greek equivalent = Remphan or Reifan
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i could go on, and on, and on...
you usually won't see me get all Biblical here, but you opened the door.
if one knows their history, one will plainly see that they are the "poster-children" of "Don't let it happen to you."
if one demands to play the victim, then one is made to endure slavery.
Cause and Effect.
The Jews are not alone.
the idolatry of a Lesser G-d has surpassed the test of time and is evident to this day, even if practiced in ignorance.
this is a vital lesson in a Commandment that IS enforced.
one should be aware of what that Sabbath truly represents, for your own sake.
Fear not, little God. All is in Divine Order, At All Times.
this topic is of epic proportions, and indeed deserves its own thread.
any scripture i quote, will consequently speak for itself.
for the record, i will not respond to every cited quote you choose to bombard this thread with without your own personal commentary.
feel free to chime in with your thoughts at any time.
there is a lacking of your perspective, but i will still respond accordingly.
now, certain points must be noted in order for you to thoroughly comprehend the reasoning in this response.
1) IMHO, the One True Living God of Creation, is not the "G-d" you believe it to be, until you have shown otherwise.
2) His Kingdom is Here and Now.
I exist in perpetual agreement with the One True Living God's Law, an Ordained Sovereign man on this Earth.
For your benefit, you should be aware that the words I speak cannot be nothing but Truth as I, literally, cannot tell a lie.
If you feel that I have ever in some way "Judged" you, know that His Judgement is Just, as "I" cannot create a victim.
I am nothing but a conduit of His Divine Will.
May the following words find you in Peace..
-------------------
Biblical sources:
pagan phallic idol worship.
one should note that the sexually symbolic act of pouring oil onto the idol(or male ejaculation symbolizing fertility, or being fruitful, or multiplying), was a normal custom of the times, and was done honorably and in good faith.
most popularly, it has been relegated to anointing of foreheads with Holy Water, although the pagan custom can still be seen in some cultures, such as India.
nothing wrong with ritual..it provides a sense of order and security..a common fellowship in brother-hood..the feeling of doing something for God.
rituals please my Ego too.
it gives it SOMETHING TO DO!!! However, the True Self within this vessel, need not for ritual of any nature..
what would that which Observes "need" at all, other than something observably interesting?
------------
-------------
Kiyun/Kaiwan/Chiun = Saturn
the Egyptian or Greek equivalent = Remphan or Reifan
-------------
i could go on, and on, and on...
you usually won't see me get all Biblical here, but you opened the door.
if one knows their history, one will plainly see that they are the "poster-children" of "Don't let it happen to you."
if one demands to play the victim, then one is made to endure slavery.
Cause and Effect.
The Jews are not alone.
the idolatry of a Lesser G-d has surpassed the test of time and is evident to this day, even if practiced in ignorance.
this is a vital lesson in a Commandment that IS enforced.
one should be aware of what that Sabbath truly represents, for your own sake.
Fear not, little God. All is in Divine Order, At All Times.
Almost every event of any importance in the history of humanity is a spiritual battle between Ha-satan and HaShem, the "One True G-d". Humans are often blind to the spiritual realities behind the events; unfortunately, many of those that aren't blind are into the occult or essentially "Baal worship".
1) Yeshua's prayer to Hashem, his "G-d", the "G-d of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob" in Jn 17:1-3 starts as follows:
Jn 17:1-3 (CJB)
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17 After Yeshua had said these things, he looked up toward heaven and said, “Father, the time has come. Glorify your Son, so that the Son may glorify you — 2 just as you gave him authority over all mankind, so that he might give eternal life to all those whom you have given him. 3 And eternal life is this: to know you, the one true God, and him whom you sent, Yeshua the Messiah.
2) To some extent, the "kingdom" is here and now; besides existing in the form of spiritual beings that obey the will of "G-d", this Malkuth exists in those human beings that are cohanim of the "One True G-d", but this priesthood is not by ordination, but by accepting the king Yeshua HaMashiach, trusting in him and by an anointing superior to that of oil, through the power of the Ruach HaKodesh ( "Holy Spirit" ). The "kingdom" is also referring to the future "fulfillment" in Rev chapter 22. Yeshua's "kingdom" is not of this world even though the servants of the kingdom have the deposit of the Ruach HaKodesh (" Spirit of Truth ") indwelling them according to the new covenant spoken of in Jer 31:33-34 so that the servants know "YHWH Elohim" and Yeshua the king, whom the Father sent:
Jn 17:33-37 (CJB)
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33 So Pilate went back into the headquarters, called Yeshua and said to him, “Are you the king of the Jews?” 34 Yeshua answered, “Are you asking this on your own, or have other people told you about me?” 35Pilate replied, “Am I a Jew? Your own nation and head cohanim have handed you over to me; what have you done?” 36 Yeshua answered, “My kingship does not derive its authority from this world’s order of things. If it did, my men would have fought to keep me from being arrested by the Judeans. But my kingship does not come from here.” 37 “So then,” Pilate said to him, “You are a king, after all.” Yeshua answered, “You say I am a king. The reason I have been born, the reason I have come into the world, is to bear witness to the truth. Every one who belongs to the truth listens to me.”
Just as the order of cohanim beginning with Yeshua is superior to that of the Levites or any other priesthood, everything is also superior: instead of continual sacrifices for sins, the one time propitiation of Yeshua HaMashiach through his blood was not only superior, but covered all the sins of humanity; instead of an anointing with oil, the Ruach HaKodesh is a superior anointing; instead of having a priest that would eventually die, Yeshua is a priest-king that lives for eternity. Yeshua is also the head of the "ecclessia" ( general assembly, often misappropriately translated "church" ), the members of which inherit the "kingdom of G-d". This "superiority" is a major theme in the "book of Hebrews".
Those passages from Genesis point to the Mashiach, Yeshua, for he is not only Jacob's Ladder and the "House of El" ( for the "One True G-d" dwelt inside the Incarnate Memra ~ Human "Logos" ), he is also the chief cornerstone that the builders rejected.
Yeshua is also "YHWH in the flesh" and the Judge of all humanity. He provides the correct halakhah for any Torah ~ "instruction" and the means to follow him in "the Way" is through the power of the Ruach HaKodesh, not only to overcome the world, but to bear witness of Yeshua HaMashiach and preach the "kingdom of G-d", headed by the "King of Kings and Lord of Lords", "Christ Jesus" = Messiah Yeshua.
Shalom!
07-18-2012
, 06:22 PM
07-18-2012
, 07:48 PM
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Shalom Aleikhem!
Almost every event of any importance in the history of humanity is a spiritual battle between Ha-satan and HaShem, the "One True G-d". Humans are often blind to the spiritual realities behind the events; unfortunately, many of those that aren't blind are into the occult or essentially "Baal worship".
Almost every event of any importance in the history of humanity is a spiritual battle between Ha-satan and HaShem, the "One True G-d". Humans are often blind to the spiritual realities behind the events; unfortunately, many of those that aren't blind are into the occult or essentially "Baal worship".
i am under the impression that every event is of the utmost importance. even..this..discussion.
the blind are indeed blind by and through the Will of the Supreme Authority.
we all serve a greater purpose.
unfortunate is such a biased view, don't you think?
how else would we collectively come to the righteous judgement of that which we are not?
ALL experience is beneficial...would you agree?
thank you.
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1) Yeshua's prayer to Hashem, his "G-d", the "G-d of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob" in Jn 17:1-3 starts as follows:
Jn 17:1-3 (CJB)
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17 After Yeshua had said these things, he looked up toward heaven and said, “Father, the time has come. Glorify your Son, so that the Son may glorify you — 2 just as you gave him authority over all mankind, so that he might give eternal life to all those whom you have given him. 3 And eternal life is this: to know you, the one true God, and him whom you sent, Yeshua the Messiah.
1) Yeshua's prayer to Hashem, his "G-d", the "G-d of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob" in Jn 17:1-3 starts as follows:
Jn 17:1-3 (CJB)
==========
17 After Yeshua had said these things, he looked up toward heaven and said, “Father, the time has come. Glorify your Son, so that the Son may glorify you — 2 just as you gave him authority over all mankind, so that he might give eternal life to all those whom you have given him. 3 And eternal life is this: to know you, the one true God, and him whom you sent, Yeshua the Messiah.
would you care to share your thoughts on these passages?
thank you.
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2) To some extent, the "kingdom" is here and now; besides existing in the form of spiritual beings that obey the will of "G-d", this Malkuth exists in those human beings that are cohanim of the "One True G-d", but this priesthood is not by ordination, but by accepting the king Yeshua HaMashiach, trusting in him and by an anointing superior to that of oil, through the power of the Ruach HaKodesh ( "Holy Spirit" ). The "kingdom" is also referring to the future "fulfillment" in Rev chapter 22. Yeshua's "kingdom" is not of this world even though the servants of the kingdom have the deposit of the Ruach HaKodesh (" Spirit of Truth ") indwelling them according to the new covenant spoken of in Jer 31:33-34 so that the servants know "YHWH Elohim" and Yeshua the king, whom the Father sent:
all is ordained. ALL.
if it were not His Will, you would not have been able to type this response, let alone click submit. it is Ordained.
the very breath you take as you read this, is Ordained.
when one is in the position to honestly receive and accept "redemption", one will be made to, as it is Ordained.
one must note, this "redemption" we speak of is illusory in nature, hence the new covenant.
we are not to "save" anyone, but simply be at Peace in the knowing that We are ALL "saved"..
thus, wouldn't you find it misleading to be chanting, "Repent, for the Kingdom of G-d is at Hand!"?
aah whatever..do as you are led.
this is a Solo Mission. One Man Army. One Ranger, One Riot.
and I'm just a Drill Sergeant..
Tour Guide..
Spectator..
the One True Living God just doesn't do favoritism.
We, are All of Us, Ordained Sovereign Beings in spirituality.
Before ( and if ) a transcendent transformation is to occur in this plane of physicality, yes, it must be Ordained by the One True Living God, through the redemption mechanism of Christ, and trial by combat in the Holy Spirit.
would you care to expand on the term, "cohanim"?
thank you.
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Jn 17:33-37 (CJB)
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33 So Pilate went back into the headquarters, called Yeshua and said to him, “Are you the king of the Jews?” 34 Yeshua answered, “Are you asking this on your own, or have other people told you about me?” 35Pilate replied, “Am I a Jew? Your own nation and head cohanim have handed you over to me; what have you done?” 36 Yeshua answered, “My kingship does not derive its authority from this world’s order of things. If it did, my men would have fought to keep me from being arrested by the Judeans. But my kingship does not come from here.” 37 “So then,” Pilate said to him, “You are a king, after all.” Yeshua answered, “You say I am a king. The reason I have been born, the reason I have come into the world, is to bear witness to the truth. Every one who belongs to the truth listens to me.”
Just as the order of cohanim beginning with Yeshua is superior to that of the Levites or any other priesthood, everything is also superior: instead of continual sacrifices for sins, the one time propitiation of Yeshua HaMashiach through his blood was not only superior, but covered all the sins of humanity; instead of an anointing with oil, the Ruach HaKodesh is a superior anointing; instead of having a priest that would eventually die, Yeshua is a priest-king that lives for eternity. Yeshua is also the head of the "ecclessia" ( general assembly, often misappropriately translated "church" ), the members of which inherit the "kingdom of G-d". This "superiority" is a major theme in the "book of Hebrews".
Those passages from Genesis point to the Mashiach, Yeshua, for he is not only Jacob's Ladder and the "House of El" ( for the "One True G-d" dwelt inside the Incarnate Memra ~ Human "Logos" ), he is also the chief cornerstone that the builders rejected.
Yeshua is also "YHWH in the flesh" and the Judge of all humanity. He provides the correct halakhah for any Torah ~ "instruction" and the means to follow him in "the Way" is through the power of the Ruach HaKodesh, not only to overcome the world, but to bear witness of Yeshua HaMashiach and preach the "kingdom of G-d", headed by the "King of Kings and Lord of Lords", "Christ Jesus" = Messiah Yeshua.
Shalom!
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33 So Pilate went back into the headquarters, called Yeshua and said to him, “Are you the king of the Jews?” 34 Yeshua answered, “Are you asking this on your own, or have other people told you about me?” 35Pilate replied, “Am I a Jew? Your own nation and head cohanim have handed you over to me; what have you done?” 36 Yeshua answered, “My kingship does not derive its authority from this world’s order of things. If it did, my men would have fought to keep me from being arrested by the Judeans. But my kingship does not come from here.” 37 “So then,” Pilate said to him, “You are a king, after all.” Yeshua answered, “You say I am a king. The reason I have been born, the reason I have come into the world, is to bear witness to the truth. Every one who belongs to the truth listens to me.”
Just as the order of cohanim beginning with Yeshua is superior to that of the Levites or any other priesthood, everything is also superior: instead of continual sacrifices for sins, the one time propitiation of Yeshua HaMashiach through his blood was not only superior, but covered all the sins of humanity; instead of an anointing with oil, the Ruach HaKodesh is a superior anointing; instead of having a priest that would eventually die, Yeshua is a priest-king that lives for eternity. Yeshua is also the head of the "ecclessia" ( general assembly, often misappropriately translated "church" ), the members of which inherit the "kingdom of G-d". This "superiority" is a major theme in the "book of Hebrews".
Those passages from Genesis point to the Mashiach, Yeshua, for he is not only Jacob's Ladder and the "House of El" ( for the "One True G-d" dwelt inside the Incarnate Memra ~ Human "Logos" ), he is also the chief cornerstone that the builders rejected.
Yeshua is also "YHWH in the flesh" and the Judge of all humanity. He provides the correct halakhah for any Torah ~ "instruction" and the means to follow him in "the Way" is through the power of the Ruach HaKodesh, not only to overcome the world, but to bear witness of Yeshua HaMashiach and preach the "kingdom of G-d", headed by the "King of Kings and Lord of Lords", "Christ Jesus" = Messiah Yeshua.
Shalom!
although we cannot aspire to be the Judge of Judges, there are apparently a select number, of the 'elect'...
but one must not Judge before the day of Judgement.
thank you.
salvation is one thing.. divine grace and protection is another matter entirely..
although, i must wonder.. what are your thoughts on this notion of "superiority" as you have indeed enclosed the word in quotation?
thank you for being me.
07-19-2012
, 01:01 AM
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Yeshua was a Shabbat-keeping Jew and his prayer was to his "G-d", "YHWH Elohim", the Father. To "know the Father and Yeshua HaMashiach" is to understand his will through the Ruach HaKodesh, the "Holy Spirit" which is given to the talmidim ( "disciples" ) of Yeshua. The passage from 1 Jn 2 is relevant since it speaks about knowing Yeshua as the "Word of Life": obedience to his commands is what is important!
"Cohanim" is plural for "cohen"= priest. The book of Hebrews is the best source for the "superiority" ( this seems to be the reasonable translation of the idea that was received in Greek but was essentially a Hebrew thought ) of the priesthood of Melchizedek.
The only way to true life is through Yeshua HaMashiach! He is the king of the everlasting "Kingdom of G-d".
"Cohanim" is plural for "cohen"= priest. The book of Hebrews is the best source for the "superiority" ( this seems to be the reasonable translation of the idea that was received in Greek but was essentially a Hebrew thought ) of the priesthood of Melchizedek.
The only way to true life is through Yeshua HaMashiach! He is the king of the everlasting "Kingdom of G-d".
there are many a lesson here for one to contemplate and meditate upon.
i would like to say thank us for allowing us this opportunity to share our bits of wisdom and for providing our proper insight to the Jewish doctrine and culture regarding our One True Living God, the King of Kings, and the Holy Spirit Within...
at this Moment in Time...
but that just seems silly at this point..
so i'll guess i'll just settle for...
thanks for being me.
Shalom!
p.s. is it Ok for me to say this?
love to you friend.
Last edited by EnlightenedRaise; 07-19-2012 at 01:11 AM.
Reason: p.s. ...
07-19-2012
, 02:07 AM
07-19-2012
, 10:40 AM
haha I was just kidding around. Enlightenedraise has some really good stuff IMO (really liked his response in my last thread) but the way Im reading the posts I just picture him (or her) as a philosopher from the golden ages. Either that or yoda.
See why do you?
... and as a side note I do really want to try DMT after watching this video from Joe Rogan (whos also very smart IMO): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8
See why do you?
... and as a side note I do really want to try DMT after watching this video from Joe Rogan (whos also very smart IMO): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8
07-19-2012
, 10:54 AM
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haha I was just kidding around. Enlightenedraise has some really good stuff IMO (really liked his response in my last thread) but the way Im reading the posts I just picture him (or her) as a philosopher from the golden ages. Either that or yoda.
See why do you?
... and as a side note I do really want to try DMT after watching this video from Joe Rogan (whos also very smart IMO): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8
See why do you?
... and as a side note I do really want to try DMT after watching this video from Joe Rogan (whos also very smart IMO): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8
hmm.. King Midas..Strong with this One, the Golden Touch is...hmm? yesss.. hmmm..
07-19-2012
, 07:57 PM
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Don't be mad dude, but I really think you should see a doctor.
Once I met a very paranoid woman, who clearly needed help.
I'm completely sure she wasn't particularly religious.
She told me that while she was attending Mass, God/Jesus/angels warned her (voices) that someone was after her.
She may have been a schizo, I read they have that voice thing going on.
If you weren't just exaggerating or speaking figuratively, you should be worried for your mental health and go see a doctor asap.
It's not something to be taken lightly.
Once I met a very paranoid woman, who clearly needed help.
I'm completely sure she wasn't particularly religious.
She told me that while she was attending Mass, God/Jesus/angels warned her (voices) that someone was after her.
She may have been a schizo, I read they have that voice thing going on.
If you weren't just exaggerating or speaking figuratively, you should be worried for your mental health and go see a doctor asap.
It's not something to be taken lightly.
i am not hounded by any nagging wants, or fearful expectations..
any perception of 'negative' emotion in my head space is merely objectively observed..
my thoughts are not the totality of my Being..
they are only thoughts..
like watching floating leaves, dancing away through the winds of the mind, until they are no longer within my view...
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do i truly come across as a paranoid schizophrenic to you, or is it ultimately more likely that you are simply disturbed by the notion that someone can have a correspondence with our Creator?
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it was not an exaggeration, or figure of speech..
i meant it quite literally..
my existence consists of Stillness..
what is needed, is received as required..
a question arises, and an answer appears..
i ride a wave of conscious bliss..where the separation of Man and God are non-existent..
where dreams become reality, for my reality is but a dream...
a floating leaf in the infinite dreamscape of the One that Is...
...and all the voices in Your head will disagree with this...except One...
Love to you friend.
07-19-2012
, 09:20 PM
but only because you express such sincere concern.
One Moment.
Nope, All is Grand.