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Noah would says No to God, or be a Traitor to Jesus, says do onto others rule? Noah would says No to God, or be a Traitor to Jesus, says do onto others rule?

01-02-2011 , 05:59 PM
Noah would says No to God, or be a Traitor to Jesus, says do onto others rule?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGx4I...eature=related

Can you think like an adult?


One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself .
One should not treat others in ways that one would not like to be treated

Do unto others as a Golden rule is all that man would likely have to follow to end most if not all of human suffering at the hands of other humans.

If God himself lived by this rule, none of the woes inflicted on us via Adam and Eve would be with us today.

The moral and right thing for Noah to do was say no to God thus choosing to follow Jesus. This would also apply to Abraham when asked to sacrifice his son.

Both instances show God asking others to act immorally.

These are the highlights of the many times in scripture where God makes men act in an immoral way.

Noah and Abraham, and in a sense, Jesus, would torch the ark. That or not build it at all and thus force God to find another way to reboot his once perfect systems. Why he allowed perfection to go to imperfection is still a mystery as no intelligent God would allow such back sliding.

If Noah believed in the sanctity of human life, and lived by Jesus’ command to do to your neighbor as yourself....he would refuse to build the ark. It is a moral issue, Had Noah done that, God would have had to kill everyone, or no one.
This sort of moral position is upheld occasionally when a person refuses to back down, even at the cost of his life. We revere a person like this, call them heroes. This is NOT the cloth Noah was cut from. How can we say Noah was a man of God when he would not follow Jesus’ first rule?

We picture Noah in heaven but I would say that it is better to shovel coal in hell than to spend eternity watching friends, neighbors and our children in torture and flame forever.
Only a sick mind would conceive of such a situation or wish it upon anyone.
That is how mentally challenged Noah would have had to be to build the means of man’s genocide.

Yet Christians, Catholics and Muslims revere such an immoral patriarch.

Are you all as crazy as Noah had to be?

Did Noah act in a sane manner or is he now in hell paying for not following the teachings of God/Jesus or the teachings of the Bible itself?

Romans 12:21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

Is genocide always evil?

Is a God who kills when he can just as easily cure a moral God?

Regards
DL
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01-02-2011 , 06:04 PM
Man, I really dislike Splenda, but your OP's have to have the least amount of substance of anybody here. For every 100-150 word you type out, no more than a handful have any merit, sense, or meaning to them.
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01-02-2011 , 08:19 PM
wat?
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01-02-2011 , 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Man, I really dislike Splenda, but your OP's have to have the least amount of substance of anybody here. For every 100-150 word you type out, no more than a handful have any merit, sense, or meaning to them.
Sorry. It takes a good mind to keep up.

Regards
DL
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01-02-2011 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BrokeDonk
wat?
Sigh.

Do unto others says, I will not build something that facilitates the use of genocide against mankind because I would not want to be a victim of such.

If an ark will cause God to use genocide then I would not build one. Neither would Noah, if a follower of Jesus/God.

Regards
DL
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01-02-2011 , 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Greatest I am
Sorry. I've been hitting this bong like 5 times a day lately.

Regards
DL
FYP
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01-02-2011 , 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Greatest I am
Sigh.

Do unto others says, I will not build something that facilitates the use of genocide against mankind because I would not want to be a victim of such.

If an ark will cause God to use genocide then I would not build one. Neither would Noah, if a follower of Jesus/God.

Regards
DL
Why wasn't this the OP instead of all the words you put up there instead?
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01-02-2011 , 11:58 PM
The Ark doesn't facilitate the flood, only Noah and Co's survival of it.

Besides which, the Golden Rule requires that Noah say yes to god - after all, Noah would want god to say yes to him...
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01-03-2011 , 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Man, I really dislike Splenda, but your OP's have to have the least amount of substance of anybody here. For every 100-150 word you type out, no more than a handful have any merit, sense, or meaning to them.
And his "Regards DL" signature at the end of every post tilts me more than it really should.
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01-03-2011 , 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Hopey
And his "Regards DL" signature at the end of every post tilts me more than it really should.
No, you can't be more tilted than it should tilt you.
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01-03-2011 , 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Hopey
And his "Regards DL" signature at the end of every post tilts me more than it really should.
Me too. Particularly when the post is like "You're too dim to understand. Regards"
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01-03-2011 , 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Greatest I am
Sorry. It takes a good mind to keep up.

Regards
DL
I'm pretty sure that someone with a "good mind" posting on a forum would be able to construct a post that the majority of people on said forum would be able to grasp the concept of.
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01-03-2011 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ganstaman
Why wasn't this the OP instead of all the words you put up there instead?
I have a hard time keeping things simple but I do appreciate the guidance.

Regards
DL
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01-03-2011 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by All-In Flynn
The Ark doesn't facilitate the flood, only Noah and Co's survival of it.

Besides which, the Golden Rule requires that Noah say yes to god - after all, Noah would want god to say yes to him...
Well, you might consider that if A & E had said yes to God, we would not be here and would not have the potential to follow A & E and ---be as Gods.

Set your sights a bit higher instead of thinking that genocide is a good thing.

Regards
DL
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01-03-2011 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Greatest I am
I have a hard time keeping things coherent but I do appreciate the guidance.

Regards
DL

That's better
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01-03-2011 , 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
I'm pretty sure that someone with a "good mind" posting on a forum would be able to construct a post that the majority of people on said forum would be able to grasp the concept of.
Originally Posted by Greatest I am
Sigh.

Do unto others says, I will not build something that facilitates the use of genocide against mankind because I would not want to be a victim of such.

If an ark will cause God to use genocide then I would not build one. Neither would Noah, if a follower of Jesus/God.

Regards
DL

Why wasn't this the OP instead of all the words you put up there instead?

ganstaman's suggestion then applies to you.

Regards
DL
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01-03-2011 , 12:34 PM
Your reply made no sense, thank you for continuing the trend.

Regards,

GFY
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01-03-2011 , 04:01 PM
wHICH OF THE MANY FORUMS YOU HAUNT DO YOU LIKE THE MOST?
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01-03-2011 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by elocutionist
wHICH OF THE MANY FORUMS YOU HAUNT DO YOU LIKE THE MOST?
Wherever the best minds are depending on the issue.
The most intelligent conversations tend to be where the theists are not literalists or fundamentals.

Many sites have many that read and few that participate.
I do not blame them as I see the net as basically a tower of Babble with most stuck in their mind set.

Regards
DL
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01-03-2011 , 05:58 PM
OP, you're completely and utterly baked to the gills, right?
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01-03-2011 , 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Greatest I am
Well, you might consider that if A & E had said yes to God, we would not be here and would not have the potential to follow A & E and ---be as Gods.
Tell you what - I'll agree to consider that if you'll agree to say something along the lines of 'Hey, you're right, building the Ark doesn't facilitate genocide.'

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Set your sights a bit higher instead of thinking that genocide is a good thing.
Never! Or wait, I mean, I Never! said nor implied that genocide was a good thing. I pointed out that your reasoning is faulty, and that the reciprocal metric you're using (Golden Rule) is too naive for the purpose you want it to serve - you need extra ethical premises to get where you want to go.
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01-03-2011 , 07:33 PM
I wish I could meet OP in real life. Also Pletho.

inb4 they are the same person
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01-03-2011 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by All-In Flynn
Tell you what - I'll agree to consider that if you'll agree to say something along the lines of 'Hey, you're right, building the Ark doesn't facilitate genocide.'



Never! Or wait, I mean, I Never! said nor implied that genocide was a good thing. I pointed out that your reasoning is faulty, and that the reciprocal metric you're using (Golden Rule) is too naive for the purpose you want it to serve - you need extra ethical premises to get where you want to go.
Well, if I need go far out of my way to convince you or anyone else that genocide against man is not a moral thing then I do not have that kind of time nor the inclination to even know that kind of mind. Yuk.

Regards
DL
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01-03-2011 , 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by All-In Flynn
I Never! said nor implied that genocide was a good thing.
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Originally Posted by Greatest I am
Well, if I need go far out of my way to convince you or anyone else that genocide against man is not a moral thing then I do not have that kind of time nor the inclination to even know that kind of mind. Yuk.
Seriously, how hard is it to comprehend 11 words?
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