Once again. Please explain to me, how one can hate something that does not exist....

Why do you purposely dodge everyone's questions? Have you ever asked yourself that?
I am comparing the existence of something for which I have no evidence for, against the existence of something else for which I have no evidence for. Why is this childlish to you?
Overlooking the incredibly condescending and arrogant nature of this post, biologists and physicists are not intellectual? This is news to me. Care to elaborate on why you believe they are not intellectual, and which group of people are intellectual?

As for god hating atheist, I think Sauron is an evil and wicked character. But I don't think he exists so it doesn't make sense to say I hate him. Likewise, for people who don't think god exists but also think that what god is claimed to be in the bible is an evil and wicked character.

I stand firm. I made this post because of the new age movement. I am atheist myself.
How will you pseudo-atheist attack me now ?

Minorities gain political power very easy. Gay people etc.
Study more my friend, read more books. My arguments are spot on.
I know in america Sun Tzu is not popular, in the KGB every one knew Sun Tzu since they where 7 years old. I am very ahead of my time here and I see that I would not be understood, so whatever.

I looked through the thread, and as far I can see not a single poster have argued vs anything you have said based on some perceived allegiance. This post of yours therefore comes as somewhat forced, giving me the impression that was some kind of "debate trap" you had planned in advance. That and the nature of your posts certainly paints a picture of someone who were never looking for a serious debate. An easier way of putting it is that claiming "all modern hip-hop artists" are linked to "opportunistic anti-religious fundamentalists" and the occultist Alasteir Crowley is dubious to the extreme. Your world view isn't really relevant to that claim.


That the new age movement is linked to satanism is, however, a typical viewpoint held in a small clique of very hardcore adherents of Christianity and Judaism. This to some extent makes sense, because for these groups New Age movements can mean a liberalization of values they feel are divine command + their holy works warns about being tempted by the devil. However, as an atheist, you would presumably not believe in the spiritual corruption due to loss of faith - and you would instead be referring to ethical corruption due to actual cultural influence which would necessitate historical contact and proof of links. I can't really see you have made any kind of case for such an influence.

Thus your newfound claim of "atheism" actually makes your statements worse.

Wh@t a noob the poor satanist does not even know what he is !
Himmler was waling around with a copy of The Bhagavad Gita in his pocket. But after we learn who was Himmler would hardly compare him to the Hindus.
Same goes for Blavatsky. As I said before I have masters in cultural and social Anthropology, but **** me ( I can't argue with haters ).
"The secret doctrine" was channeled to Blavatsky by Alien beings.
She claims so. This guy @newguy is total idiot. He makes fun of religious people but believes that a woman who was speaking with aliens has to be respected as Mather Teresa. You guys are dull if you do not get it.

''Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."
Albert Pike.

Ok... so essentially you (selectively) quote from a claimed letter that (in its entirety) is about satanic Freemasons conspiring with the "Illuminati" and Italian revolutionaries to take over the world through three large world wars and the subsequent victory of their lord Satan.



Well... erm... okay. I guess argument isn't needed, we should just keep you talking.

I am very, very well acquainted with occultism.
The NEM directly contradicts Taoism, Buddhism and Confucianism. And then it claims that Lao Dzu, the Buddhas and Confucius are some kind of transcendent masters that can be channeled on earth.
But the Buddhas, Lao Dzu and Confucius all agree that only demons will take material for to talk with mortals. Confucius even points out the terrible karmic consequences of dealing with magic.
If the NEM was ready to stop confusing the common people about this great teachers, we would not have this conversation. I have studied all the religious text I could find.
I was reading Eliphas Levi, A. Crowley and Blavatsky when I was 12 !
I have no problem with NEM, but with what NEM is.

No new age follower is ready to explain what da **** is the new age movement all about. They come up with things that I know for a fact to be inconsistent with the truth.
because where is what Wikipedia claims them to be.
"The New Age movement includes elements of older spiritual and religious traditions ranging from Monotheism through Pantheism, Pandeism, Panentheism, and Polytheism combined with Science and Gaia philosophy; particularly Archaeoastronomy, Astronomy, Ecology, Environmentalism, the Gaia hypothesis, UFO religions, Psychology, and Physics.
New Age practices and philosophies sometimes draw inspiration from major world religions: Buddhism, Taoism, Chinese folk religion, Christianity, Hinduism, Sufism, Judaism (especially Kabbalah), Sikhism; with strong influences from East Asian religions, Gnosticism, Hermeticism, Neopaganism, New Thought, Spiritualism, Theosophy, Universalism, Esotericism, and Wisdom tradition"
So for me this is one big lie hidden behind a bunch of small truths.

This latter is highly respected in mason circles and it is a master piece of Albert Pikes genius. I do not watch TV from 15 years. I do not watch conspiracy movies, since I saw the first part zeitgeist. As educated in religions I was highly disappointed by the lies and wild speculation of this idiotic movie. Movie that was made by new age people. A fatal mistake,because a lot of people where waken up for the false nature of the NEM.

People like Alex Johns (random pick) are there just to discredit people who have genuine information, so that the common guy will attack my integrity when I come forward. Because of his of TV programmed mentality he will see the conspiracy theorist in my valid arguments and turn me in to a negative character.
Let me finish this pointless debate with some favorite words of mine.

"Look for Buddha outside your own mind,
and Buddha becomes the devil."

-Zen Master Dogen

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Okay so if I have this straight I am a dangerous, childish, populist, pseudo-atheist?

I don't give two hoots if you "stand firm" as long as you don't actually respond cogently to the point being made and just resort to insults.

Idiot? Aliens? Makes fun of religious people? respect mother teresa? what world do you live in.

I'm sooooooooooo looking forward to sorting out your BS

You haven't read blavatsky, you need to not lie to have a real conversation.

Do you believe in demons?

Lets not call stuff 'devil worshiping' just because its not in line with Christianity.



Here's Mother Teresa the keeper of Orphanages with little food and no proper medicines treatments....

sorry guys I am out of here read more books .

"Lucifer represents.. Life.. Thought.. Progress.. Civilization.. Liberty.. Independence.. Lucifer is the Logos.. the Serpent, the Savior." pages 171, 225, 255 (Volume II)
"It is Satan who is the God of our planet and the only God." pages 215, 216, 220, 245, 255, 533, (VI)
"The Celestial Virgin which thus becomes the Mother of Gods and Devils at one and the same time; for she is the ever-loving beneficent Deity...but in antiquity and reality Lucifer or Luciferius is the name. Lucifer is divine and terrestrial Light, 'the Holy Ghost' and 'Satan' at one and the same time."
page 539
Helena Petrovna Blavatsky 32° Co-Freemason
The Secret Doctrine

Just to make sure that this troll newguy1234 will not confuse you.

edit: when I think about it does not matter

And about the "great" Krishnamurti

"The Asian Indian guru Meher Baba was once asked what he thought of Krishnamurti, while Krishnamurti was still under the control of the Theosophical Society and being promoted as the messiah for the new age. (Later, Meher Baba had more positive things to say of him.)

Krishnamurti a new world teacher? God forbid. You cannot compare the Sadguru Ramakrishna of Calcutta with Krishnamurti. Ramakrishna was Rama and Krishna personified. 5 Krishnamurti is living in all majesty and splendor, pomp and power, and moving about England in aristocratic, fashionable circles, playing tennis and golf, leading a most comfortable life. He does not have the slightest idea, not even a wisp, of the real Truth.

So it is also with these funny, showy Theosophists. Their greatness lies only in editorship, writing and speaking with high-sounding words about planes, powers, colors, secret doctrine, society and caste. Truth is far, far beyond this."

Let me explain to you what this book is. She is taking all the ancient scripts and explaining them, so to find words like lucifer in her book and say she is a satanist is really the mindset of a 12 year who only read a few words.

This quote was written by someone who couldn't understand krishnamurti, k taught nothing, no truth, did not believe in a 'truth, and taught only an unconditioning of the mind nothing else.

i can help you grow up and stop naming calling as well.

"It is Satan who is the God of our planet and the only God." pages 215, 216, 220, 245, 255, 533, (VI)
what ever you say troll, what ever you say.